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    Default Re: Simple Questions / Simple Answers (Gens 1-4)

    Quote Originally Posted by Black Dragon View Post
    Recently, I started playing Diamond again and I have a question. In the Old Shatue, is there any meaning of the people that pop up there then dissapear? Also, does that painting in the last room have any meaning too? The painting that has red eyes then shuts them when you come near.

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    Unhappy Bellossom Starting moves SoulSilver

    I was hoping to make a specific team consisting of fire/grass pokemon which would have its strengths/weaknesses based around the skill Sunny Day. However ive been having some problems with one pokemon in particular. This pokemon is not the strongest nor the most useful. However, Bellossom has caught my interest knowing it has the ability chlorophyll, starts with the move Sunny Day and has a reasonably powerful physical move leaf blade.

    To be honest I was just experimenting with the grass type because I find they are fun to use with skills like giga drain, leech seed, solar beam etc. Even though stat wise they are not outstanding.

    My problem is that I have evolved 3 different glooms all at different levels and none of them learned the moves that Bellossom is supposed to begin with. Mainly the two I wanted were Sunny Day and Leaf Blade. I know you can get a TM to teach sunny day and I could teach these moves at a move tutor. However I wanted to teach a different pokemon Sunny Day with the TM and I wanted leaf blade well before the move tutor.

    Im not sure why after evolving gloom I didnt get messages saying Bellossom is trying to learn Sunny Day etc... I have no idea what to do.

    I bred the oddish that I evolved into gloom to know the move giga drain and sleep powder at lvl 1. For obvious reasons I didnt want to wait until lvl 47 when Oddish is supposed to learn giga drain. Could this effect Bellossom learning starter moves? Im hoping that ive made a rookie mistake and someone can find me an easy fix for my problem. All I know is I want the moves Bellossom is supposed to begin with and im not keen on having to wait until ive 75% completed the whole game.


    Sorry if ive broken any forum rules making this thread or ive missed a thread already addressing this problem. I searched on google, youtube, bulbapedia and other sources but couldnt find any reference to a problem like this.

    Please help if you have had a similar problem or know the solution.

    Thanks :)

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    Default Re: Bellossom Starting moves SoulSilver

    Moving to Simple Questions, Simple Answers thread in The Lost Tower. @Hughesy123;

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    Default Re: Bellossom Starting moves SoulSilver

    Quote Originally Posted by Hughesy123 View Post
    However I wanted to teach a different pokemon Sunny Day with the TM and I wanted leaf blade well before the move tutor.
    What do you mean before move tutor? If you are saying you want Bellossom to learn Leaf blade, you need a Heart scale and go to the Move relearner (I think that was the official name)

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    Default Re: Simple Questions / Simple Answers (Gens 1-4)

    So what your telling me is that Bellossom will not learn the moves Sunny Day or Leaf Blade without going to the move relearner to teach them?

    I was hoping since both of these moves are supposed to be moves Bellossom begins with according to bulbapedia, that I would be able to get them prior to the move relearner.

    I think your right but im somewhat disappointed :/

    Not looking forward to using rock smash repeatedly to get two heart scales and then having to wait until that stage in the game to 'relearn' a move that Bellossom should have learned upon evolution.

    Thank you for your help Primal, can anyone confirm this?

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    Default Re: Simple Questions / Simple Answers (Gens 1-4)

    Quote Originally Posted by Hughesy123 View Post
    So what your telling me is that Bellossom will not learn the moves Sunny Day or Leaf Blade without going to the move relearner to teach them?

    I was hoping since both of these moves are supposed to be moves Bellossom begins with according to bulbapedia, that I would be able to get them prior to the move relearner.

    I think your right but im somewhat disappointed :/

    Not looking forward to using rock smash repeatedly to get two heart scales and then having to wait until that stage in the game to 'relearn' a move that Bellossom should have learned upon evolution.

    Thank you for your help Primal, can anyone confirm this?
    Yup, Primal is correct. You're going to need some Heart Scales.

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    Default Re: Simple Questions / Simple Answers (Gens 1-4)

    FML.

    Does this apply to all moves that fully evolved pokemon 'start' with? In cases where the previous evolution could not learn such a move.

    Thank you :)

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    Default Re: Simple Questions / Simple Answers (Gens 1-4)

    Quote Originally Posted by Hughesy123 View Post
    So what your telling me is that Bellossom will not learn the moves Sunny Day or Leaf Blade without going to the move relearner to teach them?

    I was hoping since both of these moves are supposed to be moves Bellossom begins with according to bulbapedia, that I would be able to get them prior to the move relearner.

    I think your right but im somewhat disappointed :/

    Not looking forward to using rock smash repeatedly to get two heart scales and then having to wait until that stage in the game to 'relearn' a move that Bellossom should have learned upon evolution.

    Thank you for your help Primal, can anyone confirm this?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bulbapedia Article: Move Relearner
    The Move Relearner is a character who allows Pokémon to relearn any move that they were able to learn from a previous level-up (usually in exchange for a Heart Scale). Reasons for this include none of that species being able to be obtained at an early enough level to actually learn the move in a particular generation (e.g. Zapdos and AncientPower in Generation IV), or the species starting with more than four moves (e.g. Kecleon).

    One limitation is the move relearner is restricted to the particular moveset associated with the Pokémon's species (i.e. current evolutionary form). Many Pokémon, especially those that evolve by way of evolutionary stone, have access to moves that their evolutions do not, such as with Eevee, who can learn Take Down by level though none of its evolutions can.

    Conversely, certain Pokémon evolutions have access to moves that they (and their pre-evolutions) could not actually learn at the particular level, like a Charizard learning Heat Wave at level 1 despite that it does not attain this form until level 36; a move relearner is the only way to teach the move.
    As stated above, any move listed by Bulbapedia as being learned at "start" means that the pokemon needs to be taught the move via a Move Relearner. One way to get these moves earlier before reaching Blackthorn City is to trade the pokemon to another player who either has the TMs needed or is capable of taking the pokemon to the Move Relearner for you.

    Trades of this nature can be requested here.

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    Default Re: Simple Questions / Simple Answers (Gens 1-4)

    Thank you for your help. I obviously didn't search for the answer to my own question hard enough and I appreciate you spending your time helping me find it.

    However I still maintain my opinion that if I need to to teach my pokemon a move via the move relearner it is hardly a "start" move.

    Because as the english dictionary states the term "Start" means; To begin with.

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    Default Re: Simple Questions / Simple Answers (Gen 5)

    Was Junichi Masuda making Black and White during diamond and pearl era? (Also if it is possible, I would like to see a source on where this was confirmed)

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    Default Re: Simple Questions / Simple Answers (Gen 5)

    Quote Originally Posted by PrimalDialgaPrime View Post
    Was Junichi Masuda making Black and White during diamond and pearl era? (Also if it is possible, I would like to see a source on where this was confirmed)
    Given that Masuda Visted NY (the basis of Unova) during the American DP Launch: HIDDEN POWER of masuda Game Freak didn't not be actively developing BW but he may have already stated planning back then.

    Do mean by DP era, do you mean the two years between DP and Platinum or DP to BW releases. If the latter, most certainly.
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    Default Re: Simple Questions / Simple Answers (Gen 5)

    For the purpose of evolution, PokeTransfer doesn't count as a trade, correct?

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    Default Re: Simple Questions / Simple Answers (Gen 5)

    Quote Originally Posted by RioTDoll View Post
    For the purpose of evolution, PokeTransfer doesn't count as a trade, correct?
    That is correct.


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    Default Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers Thread

    I want to make a Pokemon-type (tabletop) RPG, using Fakemon. Coming up with 200 or so monsters is easy, in that respect, but what I need is balance between types. Is there a list anyplace that shows how many pokemon of each type there are by Generation?
    Using the regional Pokedex, I gather that each type in Gen 5 seems to have between 10-15 of any given type (other than Ice and Dragon, but their numbers are always like that). Is there an actual ratio anywhere?

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    Default Re: Simple Questions / Simple Answers (Gens 1-4)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Dragon View Post
    Recently, I started playing Diamond again and I have a question. In the Old Shatue, is there any meaning of the people that pop up there then dissapear? Also, does that painting in the last room have any meaning too? The painting that has red eyes then shuts them when you come near.

    The people that pop up are ghosts (some suspect they may have been poisoned due to finding a antidote in the kitchen trash), and the painting with eyes is just to add to the haunted feeling.
    No, it is the room, if you use the dongle method with any Generation III game, then at night, they are rare but you find Gengar. Awesome, right? Just letting you know.

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