Thread: LT Weekly Poll #1 Are the original 151 the best?

For the most part, I think that Gen I had the best all around set of Pokemon. All of the generations have good Pokemon, and all of them have bad ones as well. The difference for me is that the first gen Pokemon a) have a better terrible:good ratio than the other gens, and b) all look like a coherent group.

There were a lot of monsters created for Gen I. 190 were planned to be in game*, and some of the monsters that you can see in production art never made it into the games. Thefore, the monsters that made it in were considered to be the better ones.

* Some of the ones that weren't put into Gen I made it into Gen II.

In never generations, designers are given a typing and asked to create a Pokemon based around that typing. It seems like, for the most part, they only make one design (as they are very hard to make properly), and that design is the one that is used. Thus, rather than picking a "best of the best," they simply try to fill the quota with the best designs they can manage - and when they do that, someone is always going to have an off day where they create a terrible design, just as they have days where they make an incredible one.

(Yes, I can give sources for this, if anyone accuses me of making things up. I just don't want to spend the time digging them up right now.)

@Azure Butterfly: Can you VM me you sources?

I like all of the Pokemon, PLUS, They come up with new and fresh ideas.

@Azure Butterfly: Can you VM me you sources?

I like all of the Pokemon, PLUS, They come up with new and fresh ideas.

It helps that the first two Generations of Pokemon were all designed by Ken Sugimori, while later Generations had more designers.

I personally like the Pokémon from Generation III, then the ones from Gen II, then the ones from Gen IV, then the ones from Gen I, then the ones from Gen V, in order of personal preference.

Originally Posted by Preußen

I say no.

Honestly? I think Gen I was the worst designed.

THIS.

I wouldn't say they're the "best" by any means, but, due to them being the first Pokémon designed and put into a game, they are the most original.

I'd say Gen III and Gen V are my favorites. Gen II was definitely a big like for me, mainly because of Scizor.

Originally Posted by Gligar13

151 fans are either:
1. Bandwagon Jumpers
2. People stuck in 1999.

Lots of fandoms suffer from ruined forever, just look at all those Digimon "fans" on YouTube who complain every season after Adventure is balls just because of the character design.

I resent this. I'm stuck in 1998 THANK YOU VERY MUCH q:

Personally, I prefer Generation II and V's Pokemon over Generation I (which is firmly in the middle to me). But I do like the original 151 Pokemon, just not the most.

Originally Posted by Itsuki

Agreed. The people who say they like the original 151 best are welcome to their opinion, but when they say things like 'omg the new pokemon are so ugly durr durr overdesigned uncreative look like digimon blah blah', it's clear they don't really like Pokemon at all.

I have a friend who is one such person. :/ She REFUSES to pick up B/W and give it a chance because she says the new Pokemon are ugly and dumb and Pokemon should have stopped after 151 and omg misty and brock and ash.

They're PokeHipsters, really :/ You can't say you like a series if you're not willing to give the later installments of said series a try.

As a Gen I fanboy myself, I actually couldn't agree more with this statement. The design of some Pokemon have ALWAYS been silly. I'm convinced that when they create Pokemon they just lock someone in a room and tell them they can't come out until they've cranked out 150+ new ones. I mean really? Tangela? "This one is gonna be a bush! Well uh, that's not creative enough, so let's give it eyes. Oh wow, uh that's kinda creepy and looks like a rip-off of Cloyster. Hmm...I know! Let's give him Jordan's! Yeah, that's great." Speaking of Cloyster, we all know that it's just an excuse to put a dirty girl part into the game XD

For the record, I try my best not to be the sterotypical "lolol you n00bs SUCK gen I is the ONLY ONE." And honestly, I feel as if Gen V has been SIGNIFICANTLY better than Gens III and IV in terms of being like the originals. I can understand why a lot of original fans gave up after Gen IV, because from an original fan's standpoint that one SUCKED. but it still brought in a new wave of Pokemon fans, and changed the direction of Pokemon to make strategy, competitive battling, etc. possible. If you take diamond and pearl for what it was and give Gen V a fresh look, I would say it's the best game since Crystal.

My main reason I love Gen I is obviously because I was around for when Gen I started, and it was my first game. Being around the "magic" that surrounded all of pop-culture of the time admittedly makes me a bit biased. I know it sounds EXTRA arrogant, but it's one of those things that needed to be experience. I don't criticize new fans though! I more feel bad for them that they weren't around to be part of things like Missingno and such that really made this series what is is today...

Either way, to conclude, no: Gen I doesn't have the best "sprites" or anything like that. But we also weren't overpopulated with legends, which in my opinion is one of the things that killed Pokemon.

Gen I did have it's ups and downs, for example, Dragonite, Gyarados, Charizard, Blastoise, and Snorlax. Other than those, IMO, then the rest were terrible.

I personally love the first generation and the first 151 Pokémon, but they aren't the best in any possible way.
The best ones, in my opinion, are from Hoenn and Unova.

The first generation Pokémon designs were much simpler, and although I loathe to use the word to describe something in a game...realistic. Later generation Pokémon have gradually become stranger and Digimon-eque, overall.

Now, whether this is a good or bad thing is pure personal opinion. I am undecided.

They look all the same to me, but some of my favorite Pokemon are in the Gen I ( Starmie, Blastoise, Lapras, Gengar and more... ). Nevertheless, I love the other Gen, more or less, they are good. So are the pokemon ! =D