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    Quote Originally Posted by evkl View Post
    I think people will find that compared to the time it takes for Serebii to load, logging in to Bulbagarden won't be much of a wait.
    I was going to mention that, but I decided against it, in case it was considered trolling.
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    And so everyone condemns someone for offering a solution. Sometimes sacrifices must be made, even if it means taking down the site temporarily. Can you people just put aside your petty differences and talk things out while you try and figure out how to solve this problem? Even if it's bad advice, ignore it in that case and continue focusing on the problem. Stop fighting.
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    Here's the catch: We've received a couple of reports of a potential virus in one of our ads. We don't know for sure if it's one of our ads. We don't know for sure if the issue is in fact a virus or just a cookie that's freaking out a virus scanner. And for the time being, we don't think we're exposing anyone to significant risk by leaving the site up. As we said, you can take a number of precautions against viruses generally (use antivirus software) and a potential threat in this situation (log into Bulbapedia.)

    As a practical matter, we can't and won't take down the site every time someone says they have a virus and it might be from Bulbapedia. Look at the way this thread started--someone had a cache issue that wasn't a virus at all. It'd be irresponsible of us to shut down the site at every virus report--nevermind the fact that such a policy would, I'm sure, have Joe posting over here much more often.

    As Archaic mentioned, we are aggressively looking into the report and will take appropriate action if we determine such action is necessary. We will keep everyone updated as the situation progresses.
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    the simple solution is to use firefox and avast along with a good firewall avg is just pure crap and avira has failed to protect attacks from some things while avast will atch any viruses in ads and automatically block them
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    well, the simple solution would be to sign in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evkl View Post
    I think people will find that compared to the time it takes for Serebii to load, logging in to Bulbagarden won't be much of a wait.
    Forums perhaps. Site? No. The actual site is super fast and that's what people come for so stop trying to troll me. You're breaking your own rules here

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    Sacrifices like shutting down the site, Joe? Or become 503garden again?

    Neither of these are serious possibilities. Don't act like they are, and don't pretend to be helping when you make it look to our members like there are easy solutions which we refuse to use.
    Quote Originally Posted by evkl View Post
    Here's the catch: We've received a couple of reports of a potential virus in one of our ads. We don't know for sure if it's one of our ads. We don't know for sure if the issue is in fact a virus or just a cookie that's freaking out a virus scanner. And for the time being, we don't think we're exposing anyone to significant risk by leaving the site up. As we said, you can take a number of precautions against viruses generally (use antivirus software) and a potential threat in this situation (log into Bulbapedia.)

    As a practical matter, we can't and won't take down the site every time someone says they have a virus and it might be from Bulbapedia. Look at the way this thread started--someone had a cache issue that wasn't a virus at all. It'd be irresponsible of us to shut down the site at every virus report--nevermind the fact that such a policy would, I'm sure, have Joe posting over here much more often.

    As Archaic mentioned, we are aggressively looking into the report and will take appropriate action if we determine such action is necessary. We will keep everyone updated as the situation progresses.
    Where did I say "shut down the site"? Where on earth did you derive that meaning from. Stop trying to change my words in order to make me look like a jackass. All I said was to take down those ads and potentially replace them with something such as google ads. While the revenue will be lower, it lessens the hole caused by the removal of the ads, it will allow you to investigate fully.

    All I'm saying that it's irresponsible to ignore numerous reports of there being viruses and just have someone "look into it". I know what that means. When others tell me that, they typically never get back to me. Quite often, they just say it to get rid of you

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryuutakeshi View Post
    Joe, when a person goes into public and offers their "wisdom" to a group that has been identified as their rivals and is now in a bit of a situation, it's called ego-stroking. If you really are serious about helping, then get on a chat with Archaic and bounce ideas off each other. Otherwise, all this is amounting to is a not-so-subtle, "Oh, what a shame Bulbagarden that you got a virus. So great that my site doesn't have that problem."
    My site has had virus problems before and I dealt with it immediately. If it was through ads, I'd take down the ads, but it wasn't. All I'm doing here is providing my experience and expertise to a friend. Just because of the past, you make it out to be something so evil, but it's not.

    This thread has turned into the classic "Joe posted. Lets twist his words and make him look like a twat" thread which used to be posted here. I thought you guys had matured. Guess I was wrong.

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    There have not been numerous reports, despite Joe's claim. What we have had a bare handful of report of a possible link between bulbapedia ads and one virus. We are investigating, as is proper, and will take the necessary measures.

    As for Joe, given his insistence on spreading this version, as well as his refusal to abide by my earlier request, he has been infracted according to the guideline in that earlier post. This has resulted, without going in details that are Joe's business, in the usual temporary ban from accumulation of infraction.
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    This ad-virus? Wait, why am I not getting this despite I'm logged out? Does it appear in specific pages? Was the ad kicked away or something? Or does the ad only appear to certain people based on country?

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    Dear posters,

    This is not a place to fight over whose site is faster, better, harder, or stronger. If you really want to do that, go hire a billboard or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reshriam View Post
    This ad-virus? Wait, why am I not getting this despite I'm logged out? Does it appear in specific pages? Was the ad kicked away or something? Or does the ad only appear to certain people based on country?

    (Sorry if I'm not supposed to post this.)
    It varies. It's not in every ad but in any ad
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    By the way, has anyone screencapped a shot of (the) offending ad(s)?
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    We don't know which ad it is, or even that it is an ad. We are just assuming it is one because that it the most likely possibility.

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    If someone doesn't want to sign up, they could always get Adblock Plus for Firefox. I never log out anyway, so for those who have signed up, make sure you stay logged in forever. Always have your anti-virus up to date. Malwarebytes is a godsend to have.

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    If you don't mind me putting in two things

    1. While not being on anyone's side in the Joe/Serebii VS Liam/Archiac, I think it is a bit unfair to bully Joe just because he's making a few suggestions, however I think he should butt out a bit.

    2. (About the Topic) I have a suggestion. Switch Ad Servers until the problem is solved, then switch back, or perhaps move servers to a different region or have a different host server. Or, if worst comes to worst, use Webstarts :(
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    *hops in*
    Also keep your Adobe Acrobat and Flash always up to date. Better yet, uninstall the Acrobat and get an alternative, that's how most viruses hit these days.

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    Vundo's malware. Install CCleaner and Malwarebytes Anti-Malware on your computers and run them once every few days until the issue is resolved. Don't anyone jump to such drastic measures as not going on Bulbagarden. :P

    EDIT: I've been fishing around tech support forums) and in threads where people have posted the entirety of their malware scan results, an ads.bulbagarden cookie has popped up once or twice; not that it's conclusive proof that there's a problem with Bulbagarden's ads. Just poking around and hoping to help in any manner I can.

    EDIT 2: Stop knocking your e-penis about up there. No need to fight publicly, doesn't give the best impression to bmgf or serebii members of our beloved staff. Quit trolling each other and focus on the issue at hand. :P
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