Thread: Suggestions, ideas, and problems

Originally Posted by Werdnae

In order for the parameters settings to actually make sense, it's had to be set so that the majority of the moves need to be changed. Moves like Flamethrower and Crunch haven't yet been updated and are still set to "any". For an example of one that is changed to "anyadjacent", check Volt Tackle.

disco!

excellent work dudes

Originally Posted by Crystal Shards

I'm surprised I didn't see anything about the Team Rocket members' names. Most (at least of the teams) are named after famous outlaws/criminals/etc. Jessie and James = Jesse James, Butch and Cassidy = Butch Cassidy, and Atilla and Hun = Attila the Hun.

haha wow, I never noticed! Good call

There can only be 12 trainers in Black City at most, 10 visiting ones and the two in the market. ArcToraphim recently added incorrectly that there can be 32.

The sprite that's supposed to be shiny on the Cleffa page is normal oO
I'm talking about the 5th Gen one. The front sprite is regular but the back one is shiny.

Very very minor, but I noticed it so I might as well point it out.

On the Fuchsia City page, it states that "The city has never appeared in the Pokémon anime, although Ash won the Soul Badge at the Fuchsia Gym."

Contrary to popular belief, the city has in fact appeared in the Anime. It was visited in the episode "Time Warp Heals All Wounds".

In the dub, it explicitly states that they are in the Fuchsia City Pokémon Center. While I can not be certain that this was the exact quote from the Japanese version, I heard the term "Sekichiku City" mentioned, so it probably was.

Originally Posted by bluesun

There can only be 12 trainers in Black City at most, 10 visiting ones and the two in the market. ArcToraphim recently added incorrectly that there can be 32.

Twelve trainers? So only ten of the thirty outside trainers can be in BC/WF at any given time?

I don't think this has been mentioned, because the page is incorrect, but sorry if it has and I'm being repetitive.

On the page with the gym badges (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Badge), for the fifth generation, the Trio Badge and the Bolt Badge onward say that the badges permit certain HM moves. I don't think that's true. I know for a fact I used Strength before I got the Bolt Badge, but the page would indicate as of now that this is impossible. The Gym Leaders don't state that their badges permit HM moves, and I think it should be taken out, and perhaps a note could be made at the beginning that as of the fifth generation, badges no longer seem to have an association with HM moves.

Thanks!

On Alder's page

"Alder carries nine Poké Balls due to him not understanding the Pokémon storage system. "


Where does this originate from?

Hi ikarishipper900,

This was, I believe, noted before the English release. Looks like we forgot to change it in at least one place. Whoops!

Twist Mountain is missing data on a Trainer in the Winter exclusive area.

Ace Trainer Jordan

Krokorok♂ Lv. 35
Palpitoad♂ Lv. 35
Klang Lv. 35

Reward: 2100 Pokémon Dollar

The Substitute TM is just to the west of him.

Originally Posted by Blazios

Twist Mountain is missing data on a Trainer in the Winter exclusive area.

Ace Trainer Jordan

Krokorok♂ Lv. 35
Palpitoad♂ Lv. 35
Klang Lv. 35

Reward: 2100 Pokémon Dollar

The Substitute TM is just to the west of him.

Filled in. Thank you.~

Originally Posted by Luna Primavera

Twelve trainers? So only ten of the thirty outside trainers can be in BC/WF at any given time?

Yes, that's right. After you have ten people refuse to come to your City/Forest.

The guide confirms it on pages 208-211,
p.208;
"The number of residents (see the list above) can be as few as zero and as many as ten."
p.209:
"Sometimes you can't invite people to come live in your city even if you go to White Forest via the Entralink. This means you either have ten people living in your Black City or a person with the same name is already living in your city."
p.210:
"The number of residents can be as few as zero and as many as ten."
p.211:
"Sometimes you can't invite people to come live in your forest even if you go to Black City via the Entralink. This means you either have ten people living in your White Forest or a person with the same name is already living in your forest."

The 33 which you gain in expanding the city are the 12 trainers (you can't fight the two always there if your City is empty) and a pile of shop clerks and residents etc..

Received this info via email, worth looking info.

Before I start, let me assure you that this is NOT intended as an April Fool's joke, I just happened to make the discovery early in the morning on April 1. (Though I do appreciate the Bulbapedia ==> Fushigipedia prank. >:3 )

I would put this in the talk page (having just registered), but the entire wiki is protected, and I thought I ought to tell SOMEONE before I forget, myself. On the Bulbapedia page for Ditto, it states that Ditto's capture rate changes to match that of the species it transforms into. This may have changed for Generation V--going by the capture rate of 255 for Lillipup, and using a Dusk Ball during nighttime (3.5x), I should get a 100% capture rate for a Ditto transformed into Lillipup even at full health. However, I was getting several misses.

The oddest part is that the capture rate seemed to be better than would be expected for an untransformed Ditto with Dusk Balls, so I'm not sure exactly what's going on. Anyway, as I said, despite the unfortunate timing, this is NOT an April Fool's joke, so if you have Black or White and can access the Giant Chasm, feel free to verify this.

I wish you the best of luck in getting the servers ready to handle the mass of editors who will no doubt bombard them with Black/White-related edits the moment protection lifts. @_@ I do NOT envy your job.

-Alfador

Originally Posted by bluesun

Yes, that's right. After you have ten people refuse to come to your City/Forest.

The 33 which you gain in expanding the city are the 12 trainers (you can't fight the two always there if your City is empty) and a pile of shop clerks and residents etc..

That rather does suck if you're trying to get a specific item. =(

Does your guide say which trainers are responsible for which item in the market?

Originally Posted by Luna Primavera

That rather does suck if you're trying to get a specific item. =(

Does your guide say which trainers are responsible for which item in the market?

Yes. I'll list them name/Black City item/price/White Forest item/White Forest Pokemon/likelihood of leaving Black City to cover everything in their tables.

Code:

Grace    Dawn Stone   10000 same        Bagon Wooper   Very High*
Lena     Sun Stone    10000 same        Ralts      Wooper   Very High
Molly    Shiny Stone  10000 same        Azurill Lotad    Very High
Britney  Rare Bone    30000 same        Hoppip Surskit  High
Collin   Yellow Shard  3000 same        Abra       Lotad    High
Emi      Fluffy Tail  15000 Timer Ball  Happiny Corphish High
Frederic Luxury Ball  50000 Honey       Budew      Wooper   High*
Gene     Big Mushroom 20000 same        Aron       Surskit  High
Jacques  Poke Doll    18000 Dive Ball   NidoranF   Lotad    High
Karenna  Leaf Stone   10000 same        Slakoth    Lotad    High
Miki     Max Repel     5000 Repeat Ball Togepi     Surskit  High
Pierce   Poke Ball    10000 same        Mareep     Surskit  High
Ralph    Water Stone  10000 same        Lotad      Surskit  High
Shane    Berry Juice   1500 Net Ball    Rhyhorn    Surskit  High
Silvia   Pearl         6000 Poke Ball   Wurmple    Surskit  High
Vincent  Fire Stone   10000 same        Magby      Corphish High
Carlos   Oval Stone   10000 same        Starly     Corphish Low
Dave     TinyMushroom  3000 same        Gastly     Surskit  Low
Doug     Red Shard     3000 same        Shinx      Lotad    Low
Eliza    Blue Shard    3000 same        Trapinch   Lotad    Low
Ken      Thunderstone 10000 same        NidoranM   Corphish Low
Leo      Stardust     10000 same        Pidgey     Surskit  Low
Lynette  Heart Scale  10000 same        Oddish     Surskit  Low
Marie    Green Shard   3000 same        Magnemite  Lotad    Low
Miho     Big Pearl    38000 Ultra Ball  Seedot     Surskit  Low
Piper    Star Piece   48000 Nest Ball   Bellsprout Surskit  Low
Robbie   Fresh Water   1000 Great Ball  Elekid     Surskit  Low
Ryder    Nugget       50000 Quick Ball  Machop     Lotad    Low
Herman   Dusk Stone   10000 same        Porygon    Wooper   Very Low
Rosa     Moon Stone   10000 same        Whismur    Lotad    Very Low

I haven't included the items twice where items are the same between the two games, instead labeling 'same', (interestingly it seems like the only item exclusive to White Forest then is Honey?) nor the Likelihood of leaving White Forest, because there are three simple patterns you can find it by.
They are that everyone's behaviour is one of these:
* Very High in one game, Very Low in the other
* High in one game, Low in the other
* Very High in one game, High in the other (this one only two people have, and I've marked them with a * on the above chart)

EDIT: Thanks to ArcToraphim, I found out that two listings of Pokemon were swapped around, I've now gone through and fixed them and rechecked everything.