Thread: Suggestions, ideas, and problems

This has probably been brought up before, but how come we can't add speculation in articles? We could say something like "It is speculated that..." or something like that. On Shellos' page, it says that fans speculated it was a pre-evo of Lapras. Why can't we put speculation like that if we explain that it is? I mean, all the origin and name origin stuff is speculation anyways, isn't it?

speculation = not factual
wiki = factual
im guessing that a very large amount of fans thought Shellos to be a Lapras prevo, meaning it is a fact that many fans speculated it. but ill have to check on that.

Originally Posted by Axxonn

This has probably been brought up before, but how come we can't add speculation in articles? We could say something like "It is speculated that..." or something like that. On Shellos' page, it says that fans speculated it was a pre-evo of Lapras. Why can't we put speculation like that if we explain that it is? I mean, all the origin and name origin stuff is speculation anyways, isn't it?

We don't generally include speculation on pages, whether it's marked as such or not. We might include it after the fact of the matter, as a hind thought to what the speculation was like, but not when the speculation itself is currently going on and the actual facts are not available.

Also, speculation is a weasel word.

Well, isn't name origin and stuff speculation?
Even if it's obvious sometimes?

Not the same kind of speculation.

That's the difference between saying after The Greatest Everyday that Monferno was going to evolve and saying that Ash was gonna catch Buizel (he traded for it, remember).

Originally Posted by Axxonn

Well, isn't name origin and stuff speculation?
Even if it's obvious sometimes?

The difference between this type of speculation and the speculation we're guarding against is that the speculation we're trying to avoid is for information that we know will be revealed, but hasn't been revealed yet.

Stuff like name origin is information that will most probably never be revealed, or never existed in the first place.

It won't be revealed until we get to talk to Satoshi Tajiri himself.

Originally Posted by TTEchidna

It won't be revealed until we get to talk to Satoshi Tajiri himself.

Don't you mean Ken Sugimori? Well, I guess Tsunekazu Ishihara created Mew, but...

The Shellos - Lapras bit was a misconception from the release of Diamond and Pearl in Japan. That's why it's notable as triva... but I only recall Serebii.net saying that it was a pre-evolution...

Why doesn't the table on this page have round edges, like most of the other tables?

Originally Posted by Fern 24

Why doesn't the table on this page have round edges, like most of the other tables?

It mostly likely isn't roundied yet or it may still be using the -moz code which doesn't display in all browsers (which was the case), I have fixed it now.

Originally Posted by Jello

It mostly likely isn't roundied yet or it may still be using the -moz code which doesn't display in all browsers (which was the case), I have fixed it now.

Thanks. I would've done it, but just looking at the code gave me a headache...

Ok, so Isshu and Hiun City articles were unlocked today. It says in the history that after they were unlocked "we (admins) will see how it goes". Are the article protected so that only established editors can edit? That would solve the problem until BW comes out right?

Actually, the protection of those articles just ran out. They're re-protected for another month again, at least until the games come out.

We could have a page for the Pokémon fonts used...

Some of them were created (the Pokémon logo) but the ones that tell which version of the game is it were not.

For Diamond/Pearl/Platinum they used Futura SB-XBold

For HG/SS they used Athenaeum-Bold

With more research I'm sure we could find out which were used for RSE and FR/LG.