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    You know how we have link templates to refer to two different games? That doesn't work for two entirely different games. We should have a template so we can link to Diamond and Platinum and stuff like that.

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    Does this still need to be stickied? No activity for over a year.

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    [Type of article]: None: read info below.
    [Bot function]: Temporarily delete the userspace editing righs of a user when he/she reaches the daily limit. The rights will be restored the next day.
    [Bot/Template Name]: TheOriginalBot (or, if its mandatory that the name has to do with the function, then UserBot)
    [Pages affected]: Userspace pages
    [Reason]: Prevent the users from being too much focused on their userspace rather then the mainspace; it saves half of the staff work when it comes to the Userspace Policy.
    [Source Material]: The user contributions?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOriginalOne View Post
    [Type of article]: None: read info below.
    [Bot function]: Temporarily delete the userspace editing righs of a user when he/she reaches the daily limit. The rights will be restored the next day.
    [Bot/Template Name]: TheOriginalBot (or, if its mandatory that the name has to do with the function, then UserBot)
    [Pages affected]: Userspace pages
    [Reason]: Prevent the users from being too much focused on their userspace rather then the mainspace; it saves half of the staff work when it comes to the Userspace Policy.
    [Source Material]: The user contributions?
    [Problem]: People who still use the Userspace to groom articles for the mainspace.

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    As Nate said, there are legitimate reasons for editing the userspace beyond the limit, including, but not limited to, removing redlinks that would appear on the wanted pages and preparing new mainspace templates, both of which are actually fairly common. Also, the bot would require much more user rights than is desirable, as it would have to actively edit the usergroups of a user - something that is restricted to senior administrators currently. Add to that that it is actually really easy to spot repeated userspace edits on the Recent Changes and doesn't take long at all to respond to and you end up with a bot that would cause more work than it would save.
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    Can we have a bot on the Archives change all "[http://www.hardrock-pokemon.com hardrock-pokemon.com]" to "[http://pokevault.com/ Pokevault.com]"? The site changed domains due to some copyright issues, and it will no longer redirect there starting August. It's linking for image credits.

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    [Type of article]: Categories
    [Bot function]: Move articles from one category to another
    [Bot/Template Name]: CategoryBot
    [Pages affected]: All categories that need to be moved
    [Reason]: To be able to move categories
    [Source Material]: Notice template
    [Template Appearance]: I guess like the incomplete template, to tell the bot which category to move

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    Quote Originally Posted by abcboy View Post
    [Type of article]: Categories
    [Bot function]: Move articles from one category to another
    [Bot/Template Name]: CategoryBot
    [Pages affected]: All categories that need to be moved
    [Reason]: To be able to move categories
    [Source Material]: Notice template
    [Template Appearance]: I guess like the incomplete template, to tell the bot which category to move
    AWB can do this perfectly well. I don't see a specific bot for it necessary.

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    [Type of article]: N/A
    [Bot function]: Instantly block spambots, sockpuppets, and users with inappropriate usernames.
    [Bot/Template name]: BlockBot
    [Pages affected]: N/A
    [Reason]: So that the admins can focus on more important projects than blocking spambots, sockpuppets, and users with inappropriate usernames.
    [Source material]: It will have a spambot detector to identify and block spambots. Once a user is autoconfirmed, it will search through the list of blocked users to be able to see if the new user is a sockpuppet of a currently blocked user who has account creation blocked. Finally, it will have a list of inappropriate words programmed into it to help identify users with inappropriate usernames.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spyspotter View Post
    [Type of article]: N/A
    [Bot function]: Instantly block spambots, sockpuppets, and users with inappropriate usernames.
    [Bot/Template name]: BlockBot
    [Pages affected]: N/A
    [Reason]: So that the admins can focus on more important projects than blocking spambots, sockpuppets, and users with inappropriate usernames.
    [Source material]: It will have a spambot detector to identify and block spambots. Once a user is autoconfirmed, it will search through the list of blocked users to be able to see if the new user is a sockpuppet of a currently blocked user who has account creation blocked. Finally, it will have a list of inappropriate words programmed into it to help identify users with inappropriate usernames.
    I'm sorry, but we really can't do this. Blocking spambots, sockpuppets, and inappropriate usernames is not something that should ever be handled by a bot. Proper and accurate detection for all three of these requires the human touch. A name such as "Cofagrigus Fan" could easily be flagged as inappropriate by a bot since the name contains the word "fag", while a human would notice that it's an entirely acceptable username.

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    Default Re: Requested Bots & Templates

    [Type of article]:N/A
    [Bot Function]: Delete large amounts of pages, e. g. all of the pages in a category or a page once the delete template is slapped on.
    [Bot/Template name]: Spybotter or DeleteBot
    [Pages affected]: Pages to be deleted
    [Reason]: To make life easier.
    [Source material]: Categories

    On a side note, Redirect Fixer seems like a useful bot, so why isn't it doing anything anymore?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spyspotter View Post
    [Type of article]:N/A
    [Bot Function]: Delete large amounts of pages, e. g. all of the pages in a category or a page once the delete template is slapped on.
    [Bot/Template name]: Spybotter or DeleteBot
    [Pages affected]: Pages to be deleted
    [Reason]: To make life easier.
    [Source material]: Categories

    On a side note, Redirect Fixer seems like a useful bot, so why isn't it doing anything anymore?
    Deletion powers are limited to Administrators. Not even junior admins have deletion powers. A bot such as this one effectively gives them to all users. This defeats the purpose of limiting to staff - limiting vandalism issues and ensuring that the decision to ultimately delete a page is made by a person who understands our policies. There are plenty of pages recently which have been tagged for deletion when they should not be deleted.

    The reason a redirect fixing bot isn't functioning is that 1) it's not as simple as it sounds and 2) there are valid reasons for linking to redirects.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Werdnae View Post
    The reason a redirect fixing bot isn't functioning is that 1) it's not as simple as it sounds and 2) there are valid reasons for linking to redirects.
    While I don't know specifically why it no longer works, the second half of your statement indicates that you're not entirely sure what it did. It used to only fix double redirects, not any article which linked to a redirect. I believe it broke in a MediaWiki update, but I believe fixing it would be not too difficult.

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    We could make it an admin, or we could promote Bulbabot and give it that function.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spyspotter View Post
    We could make it an admin, or we could promote Bulbabot and give it that function.
    That's not what Werdnae is getting at. What he means is that the decision whether a page needs to be deleted or not needs to come from a qualified human staff member. Giving such power to a bot only results in effectively giving the delete power to every single registered user. All a vandal would have to do is mass spam "{{delete}}" onto important articles, and the bot would delete them nearly instantly. It's not something we'll ever do, it's simply a massive security risk.

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