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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarooda View Post
    *NOTE: I usually use Firefox for browsing, but I sometimes use Chrome, IE9 and, in extreme cases, Nintendo DSi Browser*
    Which is based on Opera, no?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zekurom View Post
    Which is based on Opera, no?
    That one doesn't support APNGs. GIFs work, though. I wonder why?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarooda View Post
    Um... GIF vs APNG, huh? What's the use of APNG when most browsers can't display the animation(s) of it?
    Most or not - it depends on the particular website stats.

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    I use Opera, which renders APNGs perfectly.

    Plus, it's a good browser, and since obviously no one is going to convert all of these images, I recommend downloading Opera, or any other browser that supports APNG, if you don't like only seeing the first frame (I know it would drive me nuts).

    I do wish APNG was compatible with Photoshop, however...

    Quote Originally Posted by Jarooda View Post
    Um... GIF vs APNG, huh? What's the use of APNG when most browsers can't display the animation(s) of it?
    APNG is capable of rendering semi-transparent pixels, GIF is not.

    That's the only real advantage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Master Mew View Post
    APNG is capable of rendering semi-transparent pixels, GIF is not.

    That's the only real advantage.
    Well. There's something I didn't know.

    And the sprites don't usually deal in semi-transparencies anyway, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zekurom View Post
    Well. There's something I didn't know.

    And the sprites don't usually deal in semi-transparencies anyway, right?
    I believe they do, actually, mostly around the edges; it helps them blend in better with the page background.

    This is why PNGs with transparent backgrounds usually blend better on any color background than their GIF equivalents.

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    Actually, sprites don't. Sugimori art does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by immewnity View Post
    Actually, sprites don't. Sugimori art does.
    Oops. You're right. Sorry.

    In that case, I don't know why we use the APNG format for sprites, as there is no inherent benefit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Master Mew View Post
    Oops. You're right. Sorry.

    In that case, I don't know why we use the APNG format for sprites, as there is no inherent benefit.
    Quote Originally Posted by TTEchidna View Post
    GIF looks bad resized with ImageMagick.
    I think this is why.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snorlax Monster View Post
    I think this is why.
    What is ImageMagick and who uses it to resize animated GIFs anyway?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Master Mew View Post
    What is ImageMagick and who uses it to resize animated GIFs anyway?
    ImageMagick is the image software built into MediaWiki. Bulbapedia, Bulbanews and (most relevant to this case) the Bulbagargen Archives, all use Mediawiki software, and so all images are run though it. There's no real option to just not use it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Werdnae View Post
    ImageMagick is the image software built into MediaWiki. Bulbapedia, Bulbanews and (most relevant to this case) the Bulbagargen Archives, all use Mediawiki software, and so all images are run though it. There's no real option to just not use it.
    Is it possible to resize the images prior to uploading them then? So that resizing them through ImageMagick is not necessary?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Master Mew View Post
    Is it possible to resize the images prior to uploading them then? So that resizing them through ImageMagick is not necessary?
    I might want to see the results of ImageMagick GIF resizing first. I haven't seen it yet. (What's bad about it's resizing?)
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    Wait a second, the Nintendo DSi Browser, which is based on Opera, indeed supports APNG. So, if even that supports it, I think all Opera and Firefox browsers that are current should support APNG. However, we still have to consider other browsers. Even Chrome doesn't support it.

    Even if we pulled up browser stats for Bulba*whatever*, it might not do much good anyway. Also, just because more Firefox/Opera users browse Bulba*whatever* doesn't mean we can forego GIFs. Support with some browsers VS support with almost all browsers - which one is better?
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