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    Japanese Episode AG 44: "Toward the Mirage! Togepi's Paradise"
    American Episode 316: "The Togepi Mirage"



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    The big Misty two-parter continues this week as everyone unites to defeat Hansen. This episode promises to be better than last week's as it contains more than its fair share of surprises.

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    One good thing about this ep: The annoying Egg finally leaves! I'll probably have some comments later if I can remember what happened in the dub, since I'm leaving to go somewhere at 1. If I know YTV, they'll probably have the first part on or maybe "Let Bagons be Bagons", since they play the eps in the actual order.

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    Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! Why does Togepi/Togetic have to leave? ;-;

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    Pretty sad yes.....I just watched it and I nearly cried watching Togetic leave...but everytime Togepi protected them it said Togepi used Safeguard hmmm from what I know safeguard protects from status thing not attacks they probably got it confused with Protect...
    Sparkz at SPPf and uhhhh Zapdos here.....

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    Safeguard works differently in the anime, it seems. Lugia used it to protect the group from falling debris back in the Lugia saga.

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    Oh okay I didn't know that, *bonks myself with a mallet*oh well it was still a very good episode that made me sad but very good alltogether I give it a 9/10
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    I have a question about the very basis of these episodes--why did they have to find a new ruler at that time? What was wrong with the current king? He seemed to be ok to me...

    And if the king knew Hansen was trouble, as established last ep, why didn't he do anything about it?

    AND SINCE WHEN HAVE TOGEPI COME FROM ANOTHER DIMENSION?!?! Misty's Togepi came from a CAVE that had ancient creatures lurking in it! We all *saw* it!

    So anyway, have TR always wanted to foment revolution like that? (of course, if they tried it on Giovanni they'd end up, ya know, dead, so...) And Hansen had four other grunts in that scene, yet we never saw them before and we never see them again. So were they...a mirage? *cough*

    Oh yes, and just to point out, by this kingdom's logic, the next rulers should be Pikachu and Clefairy from Magical Pokemon Journey.

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    My guess is that the king had no proof. They probably had some law about needing proof, like in our legal system.

    Um, the egg came from another dimension and landed in the cave? What's so hard to figure out? If it came from another dimension, physical barriers are obviously no obstacle.

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    This is the best episode of the entire series.
    Wobb!

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    Because Togepi leaves?

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    Nah, I just love the episode. I would never watch the dub version of it, just like i wouldn't watch the arlong arc of One Piece (my personal fave) in english.
    Wobb!

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    Yeah, it is a great episode. I've already seen it about fifty times in Japanese, so there were no surprises plotwise or anything...

    I was angry that they edited the music. ;_; Particularly the music when Togetic leaves. (It originally had music from Pokémon 4, and 4Kids replaced it with something else that didn't seem as emotional.)

    Has anyone noticed that they now have special staff for the English version in the department of 'Music Editing'? >.< They have for a while, but still... I find that a bit weird. O.o;
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    Um.... Where's the montage? Someone call the cops, we've lost a montage...

    Honestly. How can they NOT give Togepi a montage! Butterfree was in less than 15 eps and it got a montage, Togepi was in over a hundred.

    Total lack of Ash/Misty Chemistry there at the end too. Not even a slight inkling of it.

    Good in the sense that it wasn't the regular sort of episode. Bad in the sense that everything was done wrong.

    5/10.

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    Whoa.. This was a truly spectacular show. I've been very pleased with the past few episodes with each one getting better and better (plot-wise).
    I would give the combined episodes 11 out of 10, but the fact that Togetic had to leave the show made it bittersweet so I'm giving it a 10/10 (thats still perfect right!?).

    Oh if I could just go into detail about how amazing the battles were and all the events that happened over the past two episodes, I wouldn't know where to begin.

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    The hilarious thing is, this episode more or less plays into everything the gang at Pokemopolis has been saying for years and years, which almost makes me suspect some Japanese writers may have somehow gotten a gist of the site itself.

    Consider this:
    1) Togepi really DO live off of the vitality of others, as seen with the starving Togepi in the mirage.
    2) When Togepi has sucked enough energy from Misty, it evolves into a demiGod-like form.
    3) Togepi really IS otherworldly, and not just the innocent little Normal-Type it's been masquerading as.
    4) The Togepi mirage looks pretty hellish. They say it didn't always look like that, but c'mon . . .
    5) Togetic basically ends up being the puppet ruler of an entire country - the King/Queen must preserve the Togepi mirage, and Togetic is the ruler of the Togepi mirage.

    So, yeah . . . I was cracking up during the whole episode.Honestly. How can they NOT give Togepi a montage! Butterfree was in less than 15 eps and it got a montage, Togepi was in over a hundred.
    The difference being that Butterfree actually DID stuff. Togepi just got carried around by Misty, and occasionally (Like once every 30 episodes) used Metrenome to act as Dues Ex Machina.


    Thank goodness Togepi is gone. It had potential to be used as an interesting Pokemon if Misty had actually taken the time to develop it's powers instead of babying it. But then again, considering that the Johto series could barely get the human characters right, it's no suprise they dropped the ball when it came to the Pokemon, too.

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