Creator of The How Much Japanese Music Is Kept In The Dub Thread Last updated 8-21-11
The user formerly known as kenai3000
Back into Pokemon and am now more of a fan than ever
- The dubbers go back and replace almost all of an already aired episode's music score with their own, awfully sounding crap
- The few pieces of original BGM kept gets its volume lowered to the point where it's barely hearable
My god, the dubbers really must hate Shinji Miyazaki's work.
As for the episode itself, it's quite good for a region opener. I really liked the Ash vs Clemont battle. And it was nice that Wobbuffet gets to see some action right away instead of just being in the background.
The dub music is okay; I liked a few of the pieces and it's not nearly as bad as what TPCi made during Diamond and Pearl.
But it's really just the fact that not only are they still replacing music, but they did it to an episode that already had an unaltered soundtrack.
I dont even know anymore.
On a side note, I genuinely enjoy Clemont's dub voice... I think it'll probably end up being the strongest for the new characters, although Serena obviously hasn't had enough dub airtime.
But they only kept three tracks? Why do they even bother keeping any of the original music at all? What's the point? It's like the Zatch Bell dub where they'd keep one piece of music in one episode and everything in the next. There's no consistency or logic to it so why is there this weird mix? Who at TPCI is calling the shots and being like "Okay, we can keep some of the Japanese music in this episode. But not ALL of it! So help me god!"
I mean I'm guessing the MO of TPCI's Pokemon dub has always been to just keep rolling with whatever 4Kids was doing, and you can at least commend them for being consistent, except they seem to be more concerned with retaining their worst elements than their best.
I'm a game music fanboy. I think a lot of the best music from the last 30 or so years is from video games. I listen to VG cover bands, I'm friends with people in some of those bands, I take guitar lessons from a guy who does game covers (Ailsean, if anyone's familiar with him), I want to record my own covers. I'm completely obsessed with VGM. The Pokemon games have great soundtracks, and Shinji Miyazaki does exquisite arrangements of them. This music deserves worldwide attention, but TPCi says "too bad." The dub music practices make me want to cry.
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I want to start with XY as soon as is possible.
I have unpopular opinions: I prefer an older character returning but it isn't from the original trio. I was one of the few who liked both DP and BW. And I think that TR shouldn't leave in the anime.
Did they keep the lumoise city theme that always be playing in the game and played in some parts of the anime. Because that BGM is my favorate from the XY era.
Sigh...I stopped watching the dub during Rival Destinies, tried return to watch it when Episode N came around, I skipped Decolore Islands and now I was going to continue watching the dub again...buuuut I might skip it again. Just because: why they have to ruin everything? They showed that they can keep the BGM, but they just don't want to.
I prefer watching Japanese episodes without understanding anything from what they're saying instead of listening that annoying dub BGM.
man if TPCI's dub writing wasn't so terrible I'd have gotten used to it a while ago, but it's still just awkwardly translated Japanese (but I don't wanna go into a 4kids comparison argument, it's my own flaw that I'm still jarred by voices that have been around for like a decade). Example: "Catching Pikachu is but one of our numerous yet glorious goals" (Jessie), though "forming a formidable army" wasn't too bad a pun but puns are tiresome; "We'd better retreat" (I get that Clemont is nerdy but what young (pre?)teenager ever says that?). Point is, there's a lacking naturalism to people's dialogue, which is a major issue I have with this dub writing, and I'm disappointed that it hasn't been remedied at least a little.
Anyway, Clemont's dub voice is great, Bonnie's is nice too, but they make some old, badly done voices like Ash, Meowth and James' bug me even more in comparison, some dub actors need to up their game or get replaced, seriously. Serena sounds a little like Iris, but her mother sounds nice. As other people have said, the music changes suck too. Wobbuffet is fucking awesome, and it's funny that a Dig like Bunnelby's wouldn't get the kids in trouble for destroying public property, but I guess that's never been an issue.
Man, dem great camera angles. I'm sad that innovation hasn't even, for the most part, lasted until episode 13 or wherever we're at now.