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    Quote Originally Posted by Dogasu View Post
    Seems like the opposite to me. They could very easily end this discussion once and for all by coming out and saying that this Myuutwo and the one from the first movie are one and the same, but they're not. They're being deliberately coy to get us to speculate, and so far it's been working.
    Maybe they think it should be obvious. I can't imagine that the first manga chapter doesn't address whether or not Ash and Mewtwo know each other. We'll know soon enough.

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    It could be possible that y'know, Dr. Fuji was the head of the research project and wasn't involved with the day-to-day monitoring of Mewtwo?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshawott View Post
    It could be possible that y'know, Dr. Fuji was the head of the research project and wasn't involved with the day-to-day monitoring of Mewtwo?
    Maybe, but I don't see why the flashback would focus on minor characters. As Dogasu said, that part of the script may not have been completed when Ms. Momota started writing the manga adaptation.

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    This page certainly screams that the original Mewtwo is coming back. They're going to air the remastered version of Movie 1 on various stations (including TV Tokyo) throughout May and June. The thing that confuses me is that the page says that the side stories included in DVD won't be aired. That part is understandable, but the page mentions not only the Birth of Mewtwo, but also something called Satoshi's Journey. What is that supposed to be? I'd know the answer to that if I had the DVD, but the only mention of the feature that I can find on the Internet is here. It's an introduction to the world of Pokémon, but how long is it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silktree View Post
    This page certainly screams that the original Mewtwo is coming back. They're going to air the remastered version of Movie 1 on various stations (including TV Tokyo) throughout May and June. The thing that confuses me is that the page says that the side stories included in DVD won't be aired. That part is understandable, but the page mentions not only the Birth of Mewtwo, but also something called Satoshi's Journey. What is that supposed to be? I'd know the answer to that if I had the DVD, but the only mention of the feature that I can find on the Internet is here. It's an introduction to the world of Pokémon, but how long is it?
    It's as long as the introduction to the world of Pokemon in the Latias/Latios movie, if not nearly the exact same thing, iirc. You know, that "Pokemon, short for Pocket Monsters, blah blah blah, story about Satoshi and his Pokemon journey" thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FANG-TAN View Post
    It's as long as the introduction to the world of Pokemon in the Latias/Latios movie, if not nearly the exact same thing, iirc.
    I suspected that. That feature is so short that I don't see why they would give it a special name or bother to mention it with the Birth of Mewtwo.

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    why is everyone talking about Mr. Fuji. if the 1st movie is cannon to 16th then fuji wont appear because mewtwo was created by team rocket in the anime

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnpoke View Post
    why is everyone talking about Mr. Fuji. if the 1st movie is cannon to 16th then fuji wont appear because mewtwo was created by team rocket in the anime
    The anime treated Dr. Fuji as a separate character from Mr. Fuji. He created Mewtwo for Team Rocket so that Giovanni would fund his research, which he hoped would allow him to clone his deceased daughter. This was explained in The Birth of Mewtwo radio drama and The Uncut Story Of Mewtwo's Origin short that was based on it.

    Even Movie 1 showed Dr. Fuji. He explained to Mewtwo where it came from, which ended up costing all the researchers' lives since Mewtwo lashed out at them. I hope that Mewtwo has a flashback to that part of its past.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silktree
    The thing that confuses me is that the page says that the side stories included in DVD won't be aired.
    No, it says that they will be aired.

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    That feature is so short that I don't see why they would give it a special name or bother to mention it with the Birth of Mewtwo.
    Because neither one of those were a part of the original version of the movie. They were added later for the kanzenban release.



    Anyway, I've read the first chapter of the manga adaptation, and there isn't a single reference to the first movie anywhere. After destroying the lab filled with generic scientists, Myuutwo flies off to some cave and is taken in by a bunch of the wild pokemon there. No mention of Sakaki, no mention of Fuji-Hakase, Myuutwo doesn't make any indication that he knows who Satoshi is and vice versa, etc.

    Myuutwo does use watashi, which is the same personal pronoun he used in the first movie, so there's that.

    Also, the Rocket trio are goofy again.
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    the movie will be based off the manga then?

    people might get upset if there is to sakaki ;p

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    No, the manga is based off the movie. It's an adaptation of the movie of the same name.
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    dogasu-chan, so it is different in a way?
    yeah i see. the myuutwo movie might be different than that manga. or else you'd have really angry fans wondering where certain characters are.
    it makes me interested to see it now, particularity how it's animated as i told someone else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FANG-TAN View Post
    It's as long as the introduction to the world of Pokemon in the Latias/Latios movie, if not nearly the exact same thing, iirc. You know, that "Pokemon, short for Pocket Monsters, blah blah blah, story about Satoshi and his Pokemon journey" thing.
    It's the exact same thing. It was made for the Full Version of movie 1 (the one that was released on home formats in 1999 and included the CG edits and Mewtwo's Birth segment, and which has been the version used for all releases and reairings since), and was reused for movie 5 before they started making movie-specific ones with movie 6.

    (and as Dogasu says, that page says they are including these extra segments made for the Full Version, since that's obviously what they airing)
    So.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dogasu View Post
    Anyway, I've read the first chapter of the manga adaptation, and there isn't a single reference to the first movie anywhere. After destroying the lab filled with generic scientists, Myuutwo flies off to some cave and is taken in by a bunch of the wild pokemon there. No mention of Sakaki, no mention of Fuji-Hakase, Myuutwo doesn't make any indication that he knows who Satoshi is and vice versa, etc.
    That's just weird. How did Ash react to seeing Mewtwo, then? Nothing special at all?

    I don't see why they would go out of their way to let kids watch Movie 1 if it didn't have anything to do with this movie. And why would they give any Mewtwo a generic background? It makes no sense.
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