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    Default Re: BW131 "Satoshi and Iris's Severed Relationship!? The Path of Separation!!"

    I don't get Team Rocket's plan. They threw a net at Ash and Cilan to prevent them from sending their Pokemon out, and then tried to get away when their balloon wouldn't be fast enough to escape by the time Cilan and Ash got out of the net(which took less than 15 seconds!). Ash would have sent out Charizard then and saved his own Pokemon. The plan has no complexity to it. I only liked how they dodged Pikachu and Scraggy's attacks and that's about it really. I'd have preferred if the time wasted on them was used on for something else, like more time on Iris to balance out with the time spent on Ash. Other than that, the episode was really cute and me "awww" at a few scenes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Druddigon View Post
    Satoshi:LET ME LOVE YOU!!!111
    Nokocchi:lol, nope.

    Goddammit, Nokocchi is so cute in this .gif

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    Quote Originally Posted by valzz View Post
    Omg the "Pikachu to kikaretara" was the best scene xD next the Nyasu's narration
    I loved that line.

    Nice episode all round - I particularly like actually seeing rustling grass in the anime for a Pokemon, it's oddly rare. So is a Scraggy appearance, so that's even better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chiplet
    Oh please, nearly everything in the anime is rather predictable
    Which is why it's bullshit that the Rocket trio seems to be the ones who get called out for it week after week after week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HumanDawn View Post
    I don't get Team Rocket's plan. They threw a net at Ash and Cilan to prevent them from sending their Pokemon out, and then tried to get away when their balloon wouldn't be fast enough to escape by the time Cilan and Ash got out of the net(which took less than 15 seconds!). Ash would have sent out Charizard then and saved his own Pokemon. The plan has no complexity to it. I only liked how they dodged Pikachu and Scraggy's attacks and that's about it really. I'd have preferred if the time wasted on them was used on for something else, like more time on Iris to balance out with the time spent on Ash. Other than that, the episode was really cute and me "awww" at a few scenes.
    I have to agree on that last part, looking back at the episode. More self-reflection scenes on Iris and her own regrets about leaving Satoshi-tachi could have fleshed out the whole situation better and given the audience more insight and connection with her and Satoshi's own internal struggle with feeling so bad about their actions which would have given the whole making up scene more impact. We know the writers are capable of writing good emotional Team Rocket-less human struggle filler episodes likes Dento and Pod's brother battle, I just think that Team Rocket were used mainly for two reasons: for a quick and speedy resolution and to essentially be used as a crutch and catalyst for Iris to apologize as well after Kibago saved Zuruggu and Pikachu. That's the main problem with Team Rocket, they're more of a crutch for the writers than anything to compensate for being more creative. You know a very very good episode where Team Rocket were relevant and really entertaining? The Hitomoshi mansion episode, even in the the Dragon Master's path episode they played a non-short role in Kibago perfecting Dragon Rage and Iris showcasing the whole Dragon-hearting thing with her and Kibago. They failed and were used as plot devices in that Crimgan episode but at least it quality. They actually were used for more than a minute and only appeared when they needed to and seemed competent in their actions.

    They were very theatrical in their missions, they stood out even in uniform, they were essentially walking all over Team Plasma in Episode N but were cracking some humorous moments at times, even their motto felt more exclusive and unique and remains to be tied with the OS one for my favorite of theirs so far, obviously they can't be too goofy during a time where they're being relayed important assignments by Zager-Hakase but as seen in that Hitomoshi episode they can be a bit humorous and competent. All in moderation and a very happy medium. I'm pretty dubious about most of their actions in Da! thus far. Essentially their plans and presence in these episodes feels so either unworthy or predictable that I've become overwhelmed with their laundry list of appearances. Because it wasn't about the quality of their work when they're being used as plot devices, it just felt like they're blatant leaning post before. Want a new move or evolution? Evolve and shut down a TR mecha. An issue between two characters? Use Team Rocket, example Hikari and Satoshi reconcile and proceed to test their new found team work against Masukippa and Habunake. They've essentially just turned into an excuse for the writers to be a bit lazy with creation of some fillers as well.(Sweet Honey is Filled With Danger!) They've become a way to insert conflict or fix a problem without doing so in an innovative or unique fashion. The Obemu episode in the Nyagotiator arc. was something amazing in itself for a filler episode, we got a one-episode very entertaining comedic villain to fill TR's shows.

    I've found Best Wishes! to have some of the most entertaining fillers/episodes(I've really enjoyed 15 so far which is more than DP, AG or OS fillers) just for the pure lack of Team Rocket.
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    Default Re: BW131 "Satoshi and Iris's Severed Relationship!? The Path of Separation!!"

    Any stuff about the TRio's role in BW not related to the episode can be taken here: http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/f555/do-you-like-rocket-trios-role-bw-109377/

    "Playing around?" Wrong.

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    Wow, I was expecting this episode to be a predictable snoozefest. I have to say, I was pleasantly surprised it wasn't.

    The "Pikachu to Kikaretara" things is priceless. Meowth/Nyasu's narration was literally the only thing from Team Rocket that had me in stitches today.

    Overall, a much better episode than I was expecting to be. Ash and Iris arguing was hilarious.

    Poor Dento/Cilan...haha.

    9.5/10

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    The episode was fun on its own, considering how silly did the reason they broke up seem, or how Dento was speaking to the Pokemon like N does.
    It was also good that we saw Scraggy's relationship with Axew again, because most times Pikachu gets the role of Axew's "best friend", and it reminds me of DP's Pikachu-Piplup, which I didn't like at all.

    Snivy showing concern was unexcpected, Charizard even more. The first one's a bitch and the second is too bad@ss to care. But they did. Oh well.
    *probably Charizard feared that he won't be able to beat Dragonite ever again...*

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZexMachine View Post
    Snivy showing concern was unexcpected, Charizard even more. The first one's a bitch and the second is too bad@ss to care. But they did. Oh well.*
    To be honest, Charizard showing concern was far more unexpected than Snivy. Snivy has been depicted as a mature character who cares deeply about her friends. Additionally, she has had her moments with Iris. As for Charizard, I have 2 explanations:

    1) He missed Dragonite.
    2) Writers decided they might just use him for something more than being just a flier.

    I mean seriously, what is his purpose in DA! ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsutarja View Post
    Writers decided they might just use him for something more than being just a flier.

    I mean seriously, what is his purpose in DA! ?
    You said it yourself. Not that he had that lots of uses in Episode N either.

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    The BEST Part of the whole Episode to me was that Dunsparce Flying Away was great.

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    Default Re: BW131 "Satoshi and Iris's Severed Relationship!? The Path of Separation!!"

    ^Same here for some reason lmao.

    Iris getting mad over the flowers does seem a bit strained or silly. Ash's Pokemon were really adorable this episode, especially Scraggy, when they noticed Iris was missing. I can't say much about the trio and their interactions with each other since I haven't watched the BW season in a loooong time.
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    Default Re: BW131 "Satoshi and Iris's Severed Relationship!? The Path of Separation!!"

    Quote Originally Posted by Chatsy View Post
    It kinda annoyed me, however, that we didn't get to see Iris' POV in this quarrel quite like we did with Ash, who clearly displayed how worried and sad he was about the whole situation, by not being so talkative with Cilan, slept up in a tree because that's what Iris always does (not to forget the bit where he stared at the rain without saying a word at first) and then have a quick flashback montage thing about how much of a dear friend Iris actually is to him.
    Technically, we only really saw Iris be angry and leave and that's that. I wanted to see what she exactly thought and felt about the situation, other than not being able to sleep and pretend nothing's wrong towards Axew T_T But it's rare for us to see this side of Ash, so I'm content with what we got. I guess her small blushes when Ash first tried to make up and later when they both finally apologized could work too, though. That girl's just really secretive about what she feels! In-character of her, I suppose, but still!
    Iris' was conveyed more subtly, but I could certainly feel the remorse and loneliness in her scene. Kibago was showing concern for her sleeping in a tree in the rain, but she told him it was fine, she'll weather it, just like when they first started travelling... and her line delivery, if you'll go back to any early BW (first season) episode, she sounded just as quiet and withdrawn as she did back then, before she started opening up to Satoshi and Dent, so it was like her sadness could be felt, even if it wasn't conveyed as prominently as Satoshi's.

    I really liked this episode. It was a lot better than I expected and all the little touches (from Satoshi setting out three cups and plates out of habit to Kibago and Pikachu setting off to help their trainers make up and even Zuruggu/Scraggy being unable to eat without its big brother Kibago/Axew around) made it so much more enjoyable!

    I'm definitely a Wishfulshipper all the way, but I absolutely adore the friendship shared by the BW trio, so an episode focusing on any facet of their dynamic is always a treat. They just feel more balanced and genuine in its consistency and interconnectedness compared to some of the previous travelling groups (for example, Takeshi/Brock's friendship with Satoshi is pronounced, but his relationship with, say, Hikari/Dawn or Haruka/May was frequently ignored and not brought up as frequently; you don't see it in every episode, like Iris' exasperation with Dent's dramatics).

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