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    Default Re: BW116: "Burn, Lizardon! VS Kairyu!"

    I loved seeing all of those reanimated flashbacks! So many feelings, waaaah. <333

    Also, N and Dent agreeing at the end cracked me up. Poor, poor Iris. (I... actually didn't know Lizardon wasn't even a half-a-Dragon Type either.)

    Seeing the Koiking Salesman, Hitokage's old trainer, Kenji, Ookido-hakase, Koga, and all those old characters in the new style was so awesome!



    Also, Satoshi had a LOT of great expressions in this episode. Especially whenever he got burned, in flashbacks and in present time. xD;

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    Last time on Pokemon Kai, we redo old scenes because we can, and keep some as they were for some arbitrary reason. They never had to do an abridged history of a pokemon before, but it has been forever since we last saw Char. I didn't see Misty in the screenies, where was she?
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    HAH, it's about damn time Ash got to correct Iris over something. Now we just need someone like Trip to get an eyeful of this beast.
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    So Misty/Brock really were just in that very short scene of Charmander's capture. Well I guess that's the token Misty reference for the generation, much like the lure was back in DP. Guess that's all the writers care to show of Ash's old companions.

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    Default Re: BW116: "Burn, Lizardon! VS Kairyu!"

    So Ash's desire to bring Charizard back to his team was stemmed from watching a Charmander pull off a contest-like appeal at a Kanto Festival. Basically if he saw a Squirtle or a Bulbasaur pull it off instead, Ash wouldn't have bothered to bring back Charizard at all.

    Nice stem of thinking writers.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Fighting Misty View Post
    So Misty/Brock really were just in that very short scene of Charmander's capture. Well I guess that's the token Misty reference for the generation, much like the lure was back in DP. Guess that's all the writers care to show of Ash's old companions.
    Misty and Brock were also seen during the scenes in which Charmeleon evolves into Chaizard and Ash giving away his Charizard. Brock was seen in flashback form in a previous episode, and Tracey was seen alongside Professor Oak during the video presentation.

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    For those who spoke Japanese, did Ash actually mention either Misty/Brock by name? Or were they just shown in flashback form? Dawn name-dropped Brock last time, but I don't know if Ash did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Fighting Misty View Post
    So Misty/Brock really were just in that very short scene of Charmander's capture. Well I guess that's the token Misty reference for the generation, much like the lure was back in DP. Guess that's all the writers care to show of Ash's old companions.
    I don't know if you have seen the flashback sequence in full, but they were also shown rescuing Charmander, with Ash in the Pokemon Centre while Joy was treating Charmander and when Charmeleon evolved into Charizard. Besides, the bigger question is how can you judge how much Misty and Brock are cared for by the writers right now? Going by that logic we could say that prior to Episode N, Charizard was completely forgotten considering that it last appeared in the same saga that Misty last made a physical appearance in - but that just isn't how it works.

    If I had to feel sorry for any past character in those flashbacks then it would be Tracey as he didn't seem to appear in the Orange Islands segment. At least he was shown with Professor Oak presenting the original starters. :-P
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    Did anyone else think Misty seemed redesigned to be more, "cutesy?" I can't describe it actually, but in the old episodes she was more "Scrawny" but here it looks like she was designed to be similar to May or Dawn's look.

    I guess she looks more girly.

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    I haven't seen the episode yet. I have a question. WHY WERE MISTY AND BROCK IN FALSHBACKS AND NOT IN PERSON?? What's the point of having Misty and Brock in an episode that's Kanto based and for them to not appear in person (actually now that I think about Brock maybe busy studing to be a doctor).

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    This episode was too good for words! I've never been excited over flashbacks in my entire life, but man! Pidgeotto, Primeape? Misty? Brock?

    Ash explaining his past journey to Iris and Cilan? Iris seemingly recognizing that Ash really isn't a noob? This episode was too good to be true! I just love how we also saw Tracey and Oak advertising the starters, and how Bulba and Squirtle also got flashbacks.

    As sloppy as the writers have been in Best Wishes, the important thing is that they haven't forgotten. They haven't lost sight on what and who this show was founded upon.

    Now this is an EPIC episode!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adyniz View Post
    Oh the old memories ;')
    Yep, I had a feeling that Misty's eyes would get redrawn.

    Also, I noticed that someone in the preview thread joked that the Magikarp salesman would return, and suprisingly, he was right!

    Anyway, this was a very nostalgic episode. I loved all of the cameos and flashbacks, and the short battle between Charizard and Dragonite was epic. Especially how Charizard just looks at Dragonite like that, ignoring the other Pokémon entirely.

    The only gripes I have with the flashbacks were no Jigglypuff in the Areodactyl episode (because its Jiggs) and no Blaziken battle, but at the end of the day, those are just minor nitpicks that don't really ruin much. Overall, it was a great watch, and it was the best episode since the Sinnoh League arc! (Speaking of which, why didn't Ash use Charizard against Tobias?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by unsnaggedtea76 View Post
    I haven't seen the episode yet. I have a question. WHY WERE MISTY AND BROCK IN FALSHBACKS AND NOT IN PERSON?? What's the point of having Misty and Brock in an episode that's Kanto based and for them to not appear in person (actually now that I think about Brock maybe busy studing to be a doctor).
    Why in the world would you think Misty and Brock would appear when we knew they were in flashbacks from the beginning?

    Likewise the writers just wanted to bring Charizard back, they probably have no intention of Misty/Brock returning in any capacity. Misty's last appearance in the anime was back in 2005, so just like the lure back in DP, this is the token reference to her for the generation without her having to show up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Fighting Misty View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by unsnaggedtea76 View Post
    I haven't seen the episode yet. I have a question. WHY WERE MISTY AND BROCK IN FALSHBACKS AND NOT IN PERSON?? What's the point of having Misty and Brock in an episode that's Kanto based and for them to not appear in person (actually now that I think about Brock maybe busy studing to be a doctor).
    Why in the world would you think Misty and Brock would appear when we knew they were in flashbacks from the beginning?

    Likewise the writers just wanted to bring Charizard back, they probably have no intention of Misty/Brock returning in any capacity. Misty's last appearance in the anime was back in 2005, so just like the lure back in DP, this is the token reference to her for the generation without her having to show up.
    with the so called logic your using Charizard should not be returning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnpoke View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by The Fighting Misty View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by unsnaggedtea76 View Post
    I haven't seen the episode yet. I have a question. WHY WERE MISTY AND BROCK IN FALSHBACKS AND NOT IN PERSON?? What's the point of having Misty and Brock in an episode that's Kanto based and for them to not appear in person (actually now that I think about Brock maybe busy studing to be a doctor).
    Why in the world would you think Misty and Brock would appear when we knew they were in flashbacks from the beginning?

    Likewise the writers just wanted to bring Charizard back, they probably have no intention of Misty/Brock returning in any capacity. Misty's last appearance in the anime was back in 2005, so just like the lure back in DP, this is the token reference to her for the generation without her having to show up.
    with the so called logic your using Charizard should not be returning.
    No the episode was purposely about Charizard which is why even Bulbasaur and Squirtle didn't return. The writers probably don't want Misty or Brock back, at least not now. Brock might appear towards the end of BW though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Fighting Misty View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by johnpoke View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by The Fighting Misty View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by unsnaggedtea76 View Post
    I haven't seen the episode yet. I have a question. WHY WERE MISTY AND BROCK IN FALSHBACKS AND NOT IN PERSON?? What's the point of having Misty and Brock in an episode that's Kanto based and for them to not appear in person (actually now that I think about Brock maybe busy studing to be a doctor).
    Why in the world would you think Misty and Brock would appear when we knew they were in flashbacks from the beginning?

    Likewise the writers just wanted to bring Charizard back, they probably have no intention of Misty/Brock returning in any capacity. Misty's last appearance in the anime was back in 2005, so just like the lure back in DP, this is the token reference to her for the generation without her having to show up.
    with the so called logic your using Charizard should not be returning.
    No the episode was purposely about Charizard which is why even Bulbasaur and Squirtle didn't return. The writers probably don't want Misty or Brock back, at least not now. Brock might appear towards the end of BW though.
    1 i wasnt talking about the episode is was talking about charizard its self.

    2 he didnt say that he thinks that they wher making physical cameos he said why didnt they

    3 misty will return mark my words

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