Thread: BW 111 "The New Gym Leader - Cheren!"

So I guess moneymaru learned nothing from stephan's intro about not relying on a scalchpp.

Did they explain what happened to lenora in the anime? I know that in the game, she steped down.

It looks like there are just more than 8 gyms in the anime, since we've seen all 8 gyms from the original games plus the 3 new gym leaders and Cameron was shown having some not-real badges.

It was a nice treat to see Cheren and SHINX <3 BUT WHAT THE FUCK WRITERS!! Can't you ever give Oshawott a SINGLE WIN!!!

Originally Posted by BlazingQuilava.

It was a nice treat to see Cheren and SHINX <3 BUT WHAT THE FUCK WRITERS!! Can't you ever give Oshawott a SINGLE WIN!!!

no

Literally every unovan other than oshawott needs it more.

I liked the part where axew ran off again. It really shows off iris as a dragon master.

Originally Posted by pokemonsquared

Originally Posted by BlazingQuilava.

It was a nice treat to see Cheren and SHINX <3 BUT WHAT THE FUCK WRITERS!! Can't you ever give Oshawott a SINGLE WIN!!!

no

Literally every unovan other than oshawott needs it more.

I liked the part where axew ran off again. It really shows off iris as a dragon master.

I don't care if you don't like Oshawott and seriously I don't like others going about and saying he doesn't deserve anything other than to be the Unova butt monkey and lose. Seriously Oshawott hasn't had a win since Clay's gym.

It's funny that the opening will keep showing Cheren even though there was nothing important about this episode. The opening will serve as a constant reminder of Oshawott's loss, unless it is updated, that is.

Originally Posted by Silktree

It's funny that the opening will keep showing Cheren even though there was nothing important about this episode. The opening will serve as a constant reminder of Oshawott's loss.

Maybe he'll reappear to help with Team Plasma? He does in the games right and we're looking at the BW2 Team Plasma

Originally Posted by BlazingQuilava.

Maybe he'll reappear to help with Team Plasma?

The fact that he won't even have a role in the next episode suggests otherwise.

Originally Posted by Playerking

Axew wasn't the only one that stuffed up though.

If you're talking about Pikachu, he was following Kibago to make sure he didn't mess up, but of course it's Togepi all over again and Pikachu always ends up as the accidental victim. But I don't find Kibago wandering off annoying, I find his stupid baby attitude annoying.

Originally Posted by Playerking

Oshawott isn't just for market purposes

you're wrong

I know this is just a trivial thing about the otherwise alright episode, but Oshawott losing the way he did was bad. Him desperately running over to retrieve his scallop when he has moves like Aqua Jet and Hydro Pump he could had used in that situation shows how little he's learned from his frequent loses. If Ash had to the big loser of this episode to make Cheren look good, fine, but they really needed to pick another of Ash's Pokemon who wouldn't look as bad from another loss.

Originally Posted by Playerking

Oshawott isn't just for market purposes

Saying Oshawott isn't here just for marketing purposes is like saying the girls in the modern Ninja Gaiden games aren't just here to be half-dressed.

You know how sometimes the anime likes to emphasis that some Pokemon don't need to evolve to be good? Yeah, Oshawott isn't one of those. I knew things were going bad for him when they devoted an entire episode to him just trying to keep his eyes open under water. I used to be amused by his frequent loses due to his trouble-making and the hope that they showing he was going to need to evolve, but that never happened, and now I'm beginning to pity him.

Originally Posted by Kairyu

Originally Posted by Playerking

Oshawott isn't just for market purposes

you're wrong

This guy is correct. But I think the plan is for oshawott to lose so they can sell pity plushies so kids can hug their oshawott and protect them from the bad doggie.

Originally Posted by Ambipom666

It looks like there are just more than 8 gyms in the anime, since we've seen all 8 gyms from the original games plus the 3 new gym leaders and Cameron was shown having some not-real badges.

There's always been extra badges floating around, but this is the first time we've actually seen gym leaders outside of the initial eight.

By the way, did we find out whether or not Cheren gives out the Basic Badge?

Originally Posted by YamiiDenryuu

There's always been extra badges floating around, but this is the first time we've actually seen gym leaders outside of the initial eight.

By the way, did we find out whether or not Cheren gives out the Basic Badge?

Didn't come up, from my recollection. Which brings me to a pet peeve: what's the point of the animé-only Badges anyway? If Ash is only going get game Badges, why waste time designing ones that aren't relevant to him?

Onto my episode thoughts: aww, lookit Ash and Iris making their Pokémon apologise. Another cute moment with Herdier licking Oshawott. Silly otter, your overwhelming love for your Scalchop will stop you from being any sort of winner.

Dang, Cheren sure is tall. And pale. Also very endearing. Now we need Bianca in BW2 gear to match because dammit, I love me some consistency. Lost cause? Maybe, but I won't let that stop me from dreaming.