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    Default Re: BW 097 "The Reijuu Formes Advance! Isshu's Greatest Crisis!!"

    Quote Originally Posted by Silktree
    But what makes you think this was their farewell?
    BW96: Meloetta and the Undersea Temple!

    They made a poster declaring this as the Rocket-Dan's farewell and told us "not to miss the Rocket-Dan's final battle." Why would they have done that if this was just another Rocket two-parter?

    despite the promise of an eventual return
    Quote Originally Posted by Dogasu
    "We'll definitely be back!"

    ...says Satoshi to just about every COTD, ever.
    Declarations that "we'll be back!" don't mean shit in this show.
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    Default Re: BW 097 "The Reijuu Formes Advance! Isshu's Greatest Crisis!!"

    I don't think this was Team Rocket's last episode. I believe that we will have a break from them until the Unova League. Our Rocket appearances from now on will be from the Radio and from the Live Caster. But then they will return to capture Pikachu, with some of their old Pokémon! (If that thing about Dustox, Wobbuffet and Mime Jr. is true)

    If we consider this two-parter as the end of Team Rocket, then it is an absolute crap (though I don't consider it the end, which means this isn't crap), as we had no closure.

    But if we consider this the beginning of a new Rocket age (being this the last Unova (i.e. serious) Rocket mission), then it was very good, as JJM did something BIG, "facing" Giovanni and "saving" everyone, which shows that they still have some sense of individuality (I don't think Cassidy, Buffy, Dr. Zager, Domino - those "standard" Team Rocket members - would ever do this, as opposed to JJM, who have always been unique, even though they are also loyal to Giovanni). As the first mission with Giovanni actively participating, it was good.
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    Default Re: BW 097 "The Reijuu Formes Advance! Isshu's Greatest Crisis!!"

    Nobody guessed that everyone would just hop on a plane and go home because that would have been the most boring prediction to make
    *Team Rocket died on the way to their home region.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PTOldMan View Post
    But then they will return to capture Pikachu, with some of their old Pokémon! (If that thing about Dustox, Wobbuffet and Mime Jr. is true)
    Er, Dustox is long gone. The old Pokemon was just being used for another phoneline contest.

    as JJM did something BIG, "facing" Giovanni and "saving" everyone, which shows that they still have some sense of individuality (I don't think Cassidy, Buffy, Dr. Zager, Domino - those "standard" Team Rocket members - would ever do this.
    OK, stop right there. Cassidy, Boppo, and Zager I'd give you (heck, Zager flat-out showed he was unable to do it here), but Domino was far from a "standard" member as she was not only at Giovanni's right hand, but she talked back to him more than once and questioned his plans. So, given her loyalty to the boss yet prone to acting disagreeably toward him, it's highly likely she'd do the same in JJM's situation.

    Quote Originally Posted by TeddiUrsa View Post
    But nothing is perfect in this world because Seger survived all of it....damn.
    What is with the pre-BW TR fans' hatred for Zager? He didn't make TR serious; they were like that for episodes before meeting him! All he's done is be a superior officer to them, which is hardly unprecedented or offensive. If he died, what would be accomplished? TR would still be serious, since again, they were like that before Zager came along. Zager getting killed isn't gonna snap them out of some sort of trance.
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    Please be the final end of Jessie James and Meowth, Giovanni I don't mind
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    Default Re: BW 097 "The Reijuu Formes Advance! Isshu's Greatest Crisis!!"

    Quote Originally Posted by Dogasu View Post
    They made a poster declaring this as the Rocket-Dan's farewell and told us "not to miss the Rocket-Dan's final battle." Why would they have done that if this was just another Rocket two-parter?
    To fuel speculation and boost ratings. Besides, Pokémon Smash just recently said that the radio show was ending, which we now know was a blatant misdirection. At least in this case the wording "Farewell? Team Rocket" was ambiguous.

    It is also entirely possible that Team Rocket's return won't involve another "final battle" like this one.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dogasu
    Declarations that "we'll be back!" don't mean shit in this show.
    So needlessly hinting at a return is acceptable, but falsely indicating a permanent departure isn't?
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    Default Re: BW 097 "The Reijuu Formes Advance! Isshu's Greatest Crisis!!"

    Not surprised by the anti climactic ending. Considering it's BW(2) I knew that 80% of the advertisement had to be bullshitting.

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    Default Re: BW 097 "The Reijuu Formes Advance! Isshu's Greatest Crisis!!"

    The organization will still live on through the radio. Even if they never returned to the anime there will still be that every week. So I don't think anyone needs to be upset about this being the "end". We still get to hear their wacky hijinks every week.

    What I do find odd is how they haven't addressed this at all on Twitter. Though with Isshu and Kanto being so far apart, I can understand them not having good net coverage between the two.

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    Looking at the episode pictures on Serebii, it looked like Woobat learned a new attack, it looked like some blueish orb. What was that attack? Psyshock?

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    Wowww..... :) just one word isnt enough to speak of this episode... it just really really awsome except for a few minor errors.. And my post in the preview thread of this episode is 100% true... ""End of meloetta and not TR...""
    Review:
    First hats off to writers for this brilliant ep so far in BW series.. Then its really nice to see Giovanni becoming power hungry trying to destroy unova region.. Secondly Pikachu's humongous Electro ball is freaking deadly one... The battle between the Kami trio and the characters pokemon is also good to watch.. i meant i watched the ep twice since i liked it very much... Bonding b/w Iris and Dragonite also looked nice except for the fact i think its been copied from Ash and Charizard bonding(after being def by poliwrath in orange league eps)... leaving that aside nice farewell to meloetta(we had enough singing from meloetta)... going home with its protector Larry is good for meloetta instead hanging around Ash & co.. Let legendary be legendary not blushing around a trainer(ASH) who is still in search of his destiny and goal.. The Trio saving Giovanni out of loyalty really needs to be credited :)
    Something i felt,,, where is meowth-went missing for 2/3 part of episode(TR must complaint to Officer Jenny ,, seriously).. next why the temple became submerged into sea could have been explained more(pardon me.. since i dont know japanese i dint understand that part)..
    Other than that this is the best ep i have seen after DP series,, could have been a 3 parter elaborating some minor details and END OF TR("" A SERIOUS JOKE"")
    The writers showing their potential that they can be the best but yet to reach their pinnacle(just need to be polished)....
    On the whole am waiting for more of BW S-2 to be like this.. ""THE BEST""

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    So like I was saying many times, main characters have never been written off in the MIDDLE of a generation. They are clearly writing TR out now only because the upcoming episodes focus on preparing for the league and we don't need to see them in the next few weeks.

    I suspect 2013 will see the return of TR and Giovanni. It's quite possible after Unova there will be a TR plot in Kanto as well as a Champion league.

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    Default Re: BW 097 "The Reijuu Formes Advance! Isshu's Greatest Crisis!!"

    Quote Originally Posted by Musashi View Post
    What I do find odd is how they haven't addressed this at all on Twitter.
    Yes, it is odd. But I guess they just want to keep us in anticipation of what they'd do next. Radio should give us all answers.

    I don't believe that this is the end for the TRio. They wouldn't pull off such a bullshit to characters that were here for 15 years. Heh, I'm not even sure if it's the organisation's end since Team Rocket didn't disband, they just come back to the state they were during AG/DP. So I'm gonna say - it's the end of BW Rockets. Some time will pass by until the next gen, kids forget and poof! they come back and stalk twerps again xD Come on, that Musashi and Kojiro's last conversation just screamed for "Ok, let's start chasing Pikachu like in the old times!". Not to mention that Kojiro hoped for it in the radio too.

    And just because Satoshi never keeps his promises, it doesn't mean that everyone else on this show is the same :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeshi View Post
    I don't believe that this is the end for the TRio. They wouldn't pull off such a bullshit to characters that were here for 15 years. Heh, I'm not even sure if it's the organisation's end since Team Rocket didn't disband, they just come back to the state they were during AG/DP. So I'm gonna say - it's the end of BW Rockets. Some time will pass by until the next gen, kids forget and poof! they come back and stalk twerps again xD Come on, that Musashi and Kojiro's last conversation just screamed for "Ok, let's start chasing Pikachu like in the old times!". Not to mention that Kojiro hoped for it in the radio too.
    Uh, no. Jessie/James/Meowth went BACK TO KANTO with Giovanni! They didn't stay in Unova, which would have been different. We also know from the upcoming episodes that they're likely not in any episodes leading up to the Unova league.

    Also remember TR went back to catching wild Pokemon in early Unova too after they went back to white uniforms, but they were handled the same as serious Team Rocket. Most likely the "real" TR finale will take place closer to the end of this generation, maybe even in Kanto, the region that started it all. TR are definitely not appearing in every episode again, this episode made it clear the exact opposite is happening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Fighting Misty View Post

    Uh, no. Jessie/James/Meowth went BACK TO KANTO with Giovanni! They didn't stay in Unova, which would have been different. We also know from the upcoming episodes that they're likely not in any episodes leading up to the Unova league.
    Umm... I know? When did I say otherwise? O__O;

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeshi View Post
    Umm... I know? When did I say otherwise? O__O;
    I am just saying, the fact that they're likely not going to be in any episodes for the rest of 2012 proves already that the writers aren't reverting them to appearing in every episode again. If we see them at all it'll be 1-2 minute scenes at TR HQ's in Kanto or something.

    In 2013 we'll probably see them again, but I do think the real TR finale will be in Kanto. Characters have never been written off in the middle of a generation, which is why I kinda knew this wasn't going to be the end of them. We're likely going to see another Giovanni plot sometime in the summer of 2013 I bet.

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