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    Default Re: BW 010 "Rival Battle! Strong Opponent Pururiru!" Review Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Don View Post
    Shooty's totally a copy of Dent. You can't deny it.
    Obviously, he is a fan of "Dento-san" :P

    Oh yeah, because Paul totally smiled a lot throughout his Ash's battle just like Shooty did. And he always acted smug and taunted Ash.
    From first episode:



    Extra evidence:

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    Default Re: BW 010 "Rival Battle! Strong Opponent Pururiru!" Review Thread

    Ah, clone talk is always fun. Remember "Dawn is a May clone" during early DP? How about "Iris is a Misty clone" because people are impatient as shit?

    Nobody's a clone of anybody, only if they look AND act the same. Shooti acts differently than Paul. Curbstomp Battles don't make him a clone, Jesus...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duckgon Z View Post
    Nobody's a clone of anybody, only if they look AND act the same. Shooti acts differently than Paul. Curbstomp Battles don't make him a clone, Jesus...
    No personality =/= Different personality...

    American face + Shinji - Personality = Shooty
    1. Satoshi/Ash Ketchum: 801 episodes
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    6. Haruka/May: 197 episodes
    7. Masato/Max: 192 episodes
    8. Iris: 141 episodes
    9. Dent/Cilan: 138 episodes
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    Default Re: BW 010 "Rival Battle! Strong Opponent Pururiru!" Review Thread

    Oh those images of Paul and Shooty- I didn't say Shinji never smiled, I said he did smile, but only a few times. Shooty smiled almost throughout the battle. And yes, I forgot to point out that Shooty did smile in an evil way like Shinji, but only once so far.

    Shooty smiled a lot throughout their batttle. Shinji has only smiled a few times throughout their battle. That's what I'm saying. Now I might be wrong an Shinji smiled a lot in one battle, but lets stop this discussion which I was meant to stop before.

    Nobody's a clone of anybody, only if they look AND act the same. Shooti acts differently than Paul. Curbstomp Battles don't make him a clone, Jesus...
    We all say that, but still there are people who won't leave it.

    The comparison to their poses is just really hilarious. And yes, I wasn't being serious with the whole "Shooty is a clone of Dent" thing with those screenshots. I suspect all of you to know that, but I think there are a few who won't which would be very ridiculous.

    Quote Originally Posted by martianmister View Post
    Obviously, he is a fan of "Dento-san" :P
    Oh of course he is. In reality I think Shooty seems to respect Dent. Can anyone translate what Dent said that convinced Shooty to battle Satoshi?
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    Default Re: BW 010 "Rival Battle! Strong Opponent Pururiru!" Review Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Don View Post
    Oh those images of Paul and Shooty- I didn't say Shinji never smiled, I said he did smile, but only a few times. Shooty smiled almost throughout the battle. And yes, I forgot to point out that Shooty did smile in an evil way like Shinji, but only once so far.


    We all say that, but still there are people who won't leave it.

    The comparison to their poses is just really hilarious. And yes, I wasn't being serious with the whole "Shooty is a clone of Dent" thing with those screenshots. I suspect all of you to know that, but I'm kind of sure there are a few who won't.


    Oh of course he is. In reality I think Shooty seems to respect Dent. Can anyone translate what Dent said that convinced Shooty to battle Satoshi?
    I thought it was Iris taunting him that did the trick.

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    Default Re: BW 010 "Rival Battle! Strong Opponent Pururiru!" Review Thread

    Yes there was that. But Dent's words also convinced Shooty enough.

    I'm confused on whenever Iris taunting him did convince Shooty as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Don View Post
    But I thought Pikachu was the only one with more experience than Shooty's Pokemon. The rest of Ash's current Pokemon have about the same or less experience so there's nothing that shocking about their loss. I mean we aren't talking about the same Pokemon who fought in the previous Leagues here except for Pikachu of course.

    I suspect Shooty has trained his Pokemon more than Ash has. Only Pikachu's loss is questionable. Yeah, I'm not sure if that's what you are saying but.... Yes, I know I already said all the above
    I know only Pikachu's loss is truly odd, but what's bugging me is that Ash acts like a rookie with inexperienced pokemon, while Shooti is all arrogant with a trained team, and (at least now) seems to act like he's generally more skilled. And looking back at AG and DP Ash is quite the grizzed vet by now. They nerfed ash and pika for AG and DP as well, but it had never been quite as glaring as now,in AG Ash still had to learn stuff, and in DP he improved quickly, and Paul was a veteran as well.

    Oh well, I just hope that by end of BW, his old pokemon will come back, and he is handled like a veteran, like DP also did. I know I shouldn't care with a promotion anime like pokemon, which limits certain stuff, but still.. ouch.I LIKED DP Ash.

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    Default Re: BW 010 "Rival Battle! Strong Opponent Pururiru!" Review Thread

    I just hope Ash gets a female rival down the line in BW....be it anime only, or Belle. Him having one would be a nice break from the males.

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    Default Re: BW 010 "Rival Battle! Strong Opponent Pururiru!" Review Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by pokemon_master2 View Post
    They are actually VERY similar
    Quote Originally Posted by Don View Post
    Oh that's nothing when compared to this:



    Oh jesus those made me lol so hard.
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    Default Re: BW 010 "Rival Battle! Strong Opponent Pururiru!" Review Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Kojo View Post
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    Oh jesus those made me lol so hard.
    I'm getting so tired of this whole,"Shooty's a Paul/Shinji copy","Ash/Satoshi lost to a Newbie", "Dent is a Brock/Takeshi copy" blah blah blah. Shooty is similar to Paul/Shinji in some aspects such as looks and a few attitude problems and what not but, they are not the same person. Like Roark said,"Your battling me not Paul." The phrase holds true to this, Satoshi/Ash was battling Shooty not Shinji/Paul. They are different people and always will be.

    The whole,"Ash shouldn't lose to new trainers" argument is so outdated. Ash doesn't have his same old Pokemon these are new one, new ones come because they want the franchise to be new and fresh and fun. If they had Ash keep all his oldies Johto would've never existed and Pokemon would've ended a long time ago. It fun to watch Ash get new pokemon and train them to be their best. About, Pikachu's lose to Janoby, Pikachu got a power down from Zekrom and it was up against a grass type things weren't looking good for it regardless. If you want to blame some one for losing to newbies blame Shinji/Paul's brother for losing to Ash/Satoshi despite being an older teenager.

    Dent is his own character he cooks cause he has a gym kitchen just like in the game. Brock/Takeshi on the other hand has been pretty parent like do to taking care of his younger siblings. Dent is smart about gyms well guess what so is Brock/Takeshi and Iris from what we learned, too, to be a good training isn't it good to know about your opponents? Dent and Brock/Takeshi and girls, big difference, Dent attracts girls and Brock/Takeshi runs after them if they met it certainly would be funny but, aside from that I don't see the resemblance.

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    Nobody said these new characters are exactly the same as the old ones, but they're all rather obvious expies of existing characters.

    Iris/Dento feel very similar to Misty/Brock in a lot of ways, and same with Shooti to Paul and Gary.

    Of course they're different, but there's a lot of throwbacks this arc to many of the shows older characters, almost as if they're reimagined to new ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dragonite24 View Post
    I know only Pikachu's loss is truly odd, but what's bugging me is that Ash acts like a rookie with inexperienced pokemon, while Shooti is all arrogant with a trained team, and (at least now) seems to act like he's generally more skilled. And looking back at AG and DP Ash is quite the grizzed vet by now. They nerfed ash and pika for AG and DP as well, but it had never been quite as glaring as now,in AG Ash still had to learn stuff, and in DP he improved quickly, and Paul was a veteran as well.

    Oh well, I just hope that by end of BW, his old pokemon will come back, and he is handled like a veteran, like DP also did. I know I shouldn't care with a promotion anime like pokemon, which limits certain stuff, but still.. ouch.I LIKED DP Ash.
    I assume Ash will get his skills back, its just when he gets to a new land with new Pokemon, its crazy for him. Remember what happened in D/P? Ash kept loosing at the start? I'm sure same thing will happen here. Its worse though this time, cuz at least Ash knew some Pokemon in the other region, no one has even seen a Pikachu in this region before till Ash arrived. So it might take a little longer for Ash.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Don View Post
    I should have known I'd be wasting my time with Scott. I'll just say this:

    Shooty and Paul have completely different personalities. End of discussion.
    I've found little reason myself to compare Paul and Shooti. Their personalities are different. Shooti is a smug bastage but he cares enough to socialize at times and talk smack. Paul didn't do that. He avoided socializing and his remarks to other people were pointing out their incompetence.

    However, my problem with how they're handling Shooti is that we're getting a rehash of the rivalry between Ash and Paul. Ash is losing left and right right now. That's a replica of the first season of DP. That's boring. It'd be better if Shooti and Ash had something that made it more interesting, but they don't. The rivalry between Ash and Paul didn't start to ramp up until Ash caught Chimchar at the very end of season 10.

    We just came off a season where Ash struggled for 188 episodes to prove to Paul that he was a worthy opponent and lost hard fought battles over and over to reach it. It was a good story, but it's bland to see it all over again. I would've rather seen Ash lose the first battle against Shooti, but then win the second battle with a Pokemon other than Pikachu. The season itself started off with a bad taste because the first battle was basically Shooti taking advantage of an injured Pikachu.

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    Too bad the writers are too lazy, and go the easy route to make the Ash the underdog again. I would actually like Ash be superior to his main rival for once, and have his rival surpass him in the league instead of the usual route they take. But no.

    I really don't get were all this "I'm going to get stronger and beat Shooti" crap is coming from after Ash lost to Shooti. Hello Ash, you could have just used Sceptile, Infernape, or some other powerhouses and you would have won.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Masurao View Post
    I really don't get were all this "I'm going to get stronger and beat Shooti" crap is coming from after Ash lost to Shooti. Hello Ash, you could have just used Sceptile, Infernape, or some other powerhouses and you would have won.
    LOL, imagine if those Pokemon got, "de-powered" the same way Pikachu does in the new region?

    Imagine if Infernape lost to Shooti? lol, the outrage would be 10 times worse.

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