Yeah i know, but it was a draw, Pikachu lost, and because of that Ash lost. But still two legendaries, despite losing, he went down with one hell of a bang.
Or how about Ash should have not swapped out at all and used his Sinnoh Pokemon? That is why Gible was used. Why he used the dumb Torkcoal proves this point by it doing absoluetly nothing except taking a Dark Pulse to the face. He should have used all of his aces if he was going to the "use my best from my journey" type of thing.
We've seen several full battles in the Johto and Hoenn Leagues where Ash battles a team of powerful non-legendary pokemon in which he either loses or wins by a small margin.
If Ash lost to a trainer here who did not use legendary pokemon, how would this be different from his fights with Tyson or Harrison? A match-up like this would just be proof that all of Ash's matches are settled by chance and persistence rather than through skill or power.
Ash battling a trainer that uses legendary pokemon is a nice change especially from what he is used to. True, Tobias using legendaries in all of his battles is unfair, but Ash did very well in his own right.
I also see this fight as an allusion with Ash's skills against Paul's. Ash managing to defeat two legendary pokemon in a full battle, whereas Paul did not defeat any of Brandon's Regis during their fight, is proof that the former trainer has a lot of skill. Paul did look away in the end because he was ashamed that the trainer he lost to failed to defeat his opponent by even a large margin, but he hardly did any better in similar match-ups.
Surely the loss would have been even greater if Ash was to lose against a team of non-legendaries? At least Tobias "spamming" legendaries could be an excuse for Ash losing the match regardless of his skill level.
It's not every day when even the announcer is surprised a pokemon was defeated. The cap is turned, now junk is real. This is no different from when I woke up early to watch the raw. The Sinnoh League is over, now it is time for DP to say goodbye at last.
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Pikachu, was because of their battle the previous day against Paul. He probably wanted them to rest up, especially Infernape, after that intense battle and he has a lot of other Pokemon capable of helping him in this battle. I actually didn't think his lineup was that bad. Except for Torkcoal and maybe Gible due to its inexperience in battle, most of his Pokemon were pretty strong and had decent to good movesets.
I thought that the battle was pretty good. I wasn't expecting Ash to win, but he did go out with a nice bang. I actually thought he was better in his battle against Latios. Though, it might help that it actually took multiple hits instead of just one like with Darkrai. I also think that the hatred towards Tobias is a bit much. Having an explanation as to why he uses legendary Pokemon would have been nice since I think that we got that from the other trainers who used lengendaries, but I was okay with him. He seemed like a fairly nice trainer and respected Ash's skills, even if he did defeat him with just two of his Pokemon.
I really loved this episode. Yes, a lot of it had to do with the music being kept, but I thought it was a great battle. I know it seems ridiculous Tobias has all these legendaries, but that's why I liked it I guess. Because Ash had to overcome innumerable odds and defeat a Pokemon that not even any gym leader had defeated before.
I remember when I watched this episode in Japanese and literally laughed out load when Latios appeared. I mean after Darkrai... why not? You just gotta laugh off the silly stuff and be proud of Ash for defeating two legendaries with his classic "never give up" attitude.
One last thing I really liked was the foreshadowing with Brock at the end of this episode. After years of reading comments here that he never does anything, it felt like some fandom in joke when he basically admitted he hasn't been doing jack to achieve his dream. It's quite rare to see Beock doubt himself, so it was great to see a more vulnerable side of him.
The only downside was Team Rocket's inane lines, as usual. You know James and Meowth, if you hate Jessie that much, why don't you just leave and find a new female partner worthy of your egos? Shame so much character development is lost. It's just going to make the transition to B&W even more jarring.
Quilava and Glalie should have been used here instead of Torkoal and Swellow (despite it being Ash's other stronger Pokemon). If Gible was commanded Dragon Pulse instead of going all out with Draco Meteor, we could have seen either a draw or a severely damaged Darkrai. Timing was the issue here.
Heracross having Hyper Beam and Horn Attack are puzzling decisions though. No Focus Punch?
I'm also appalled to Ash not interacting with Goodshow for this league even if it means only a few words or just a scene.
People cannot protect their precious ones only with kindness. I am prepared to protect my important friends. Even if I will be called the devil! There's no way you can win, when you don't have bond with friends.
Overall, great episode. Great music too. I didn't really see the CGI part. Yet another of Ash's bad choice of Pokemon.
Too bad this is the last time we will ever see Paul or Barry probably. I was happy that Barry stuck around, until the end. His goodbye was rushed, but it really fit his character. Paul getting a brief appearance was nice too, as he was disappointed that Ash lost.
Man do I hate this episode. Torkoal went out pretty fast now that I have re watched this episode.
Okay, is anyone else curious as to what other pokemon Tobias's final opponent used? I have the screenshot of the final scoreboard here:
Personally, I think the first pokemon looks like Granbull, the fourth one looks like Pikachu, and we know the sixth one is confirmed as Magmortar.
What do you guys think he used?