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The Potential List of Sources of Future Baby Pokémon

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by , 4th May 2013 at 11:43 AM (865 Views)
I don't think there is much question here. All of the generations that contained past Pokémon pre-E4 contained baby Pokémon. In fact, here's the list of the stats:
Gen 2 introduced 7 baby Pokémon for pre-existing Pokémon and 1 original baby.
Gen 3 introduced 2 baby Pokémon for pre-existing Pokémon.
Gen 4 introduced 7 baby Pokémon for pre-existing Pokémon and 1 original baby.

With this fantastic results, it is hard to be optimistic. If anything, only place of solace we have is the fact that we haven't seen a baby Pokémon as a part of the pre-release bunch, but even then, it took a while for Elekid to show up. Now that's over with, let's discuss the tropes of the baby Pokémon.

So, just what is the purpose Baby Pokémon?
In addition to being worthless marketing mechanisms for both the release of the games and other parallel canons, baby Pokémon also allow these to happen:
1-They allow Pokémon to have various different moves, be it Egg moves or leveling up moves.
2-They allow trainers to obtain their evolutions in an earlier stage.
3-They either herald the increased encounter rate and location number of rare or one-time only Pokémon, or are the reason why they can be commonly obtained.
4-They allow regions to use pre-existing Pokémon as their own Pokémon(either as an eary route, mid route or post game Pokémon) and not introduce original families.
5-They give the illusion of previous first stagers to be acted as second stage Pokémon, even if they are still just as pathetic or useful as they were before.
6-They disallow trainers to obtain Pokémon that is far too powerful without any sort of training or effort, as they require specific gimmicks to evolve(though this is mostly due to continuity issues).


Okay, so that's that. Is there any rhyme or reason behind the power levels of babyfied Pokémon?

Not really. So far, we have seen various different shapes and forms of parents for the infants. The lowest current BST of the Pokémon with a pre-evolution is Marill's, with a stunning 250, and Jigglypuff, with a 270, is a close second. As for the singular Pokémon, lowest BST record is Roselia's 400, followed by Wobbuffet's 405. The highest are Chansey's (450) followed by Clefairy's(323), and Snorlax's(540) followed by Lucario's(525) respectively.

Obviously, the lowest have been been repurposed. Roselia was given the duty of being an early route Pokémon for Sinnoh, and thus like the other early route Pokémon of Sinnoh was insanely powerful compared to its pathetic brethen as Gen IV's theme was attemping to become “the ultimate Pokémon game”. Similiarly, Marill, Jigglypuff and Clefairy was used for showcasing later generations newly introduced gameplay changes. Marill was given the Thick Fat ability and Huge Power secondary Ability, Clefairy was given the Magic Guard secondary Ability and later on Friend Guard Hidden Ability, and Jigglypuff was also given the Friend Guard Hidden Ability.

Well, that's random. Are there other variables that help determine what can be babyfied?
Certainly. Currently seven of the Pokémon that have been given infant forms are in the Fairy Egg group, whereas six of them are in the Human-Like group. This has a few reasons:
1-The Pokémon in the Fairy Egg group are generally powerless support Pokémon that are mostly created to appeal to a female audience, or made to appeal both boys and girls. As such, they benefit from an increased enconter rate and larger support movepool, as it makes obtaining them not a waste of time, at least early on.

The Pokémon in the Human-Like group on the other hand are either powerful early-game Pokémon that require excessive effort to increase their potential or mediocre mid-game Pokémon, as such they will also benefit from being available early on or being not a hassle to be obtained and disposed of easily when they can't simply compete further.

2-These Pokémon have more closer shape to plushies and humans respectively, as such they can be more marketable when they are transformed into babies. There are specific factors of cuteness and is surprisingly employed more by Western media than Japanese, just much more subtly.

In addition this:
1-Many of the Pokémon with counterparts had babies after or along with their counterparts.

2-If the Pokémon is completely infant-like, that also decreases the potential, just not much.

3-Generally the Pokémon who are created as a joke or fill a specific gameplay role do not obtain pre-evolutions, or at the least, haven't obtained until now.

4-Singular stagers or Pokémon who were originally first stagers have dominance over two stagers.

5-There haven't been any genderless Pokémon with a baby, though it is most certainly possible to have a genderless Pokémon that gives an Egg which hatches to a different Pokémon than itself, obviously. Same goes for Fossil Pokémon.

Now, let's get to the list. The Pokémon are divided into categories they were in their debut games, not other games, as they can't be called direct counterparts to the Pokémon with baby Pokémon.

Single-stagers and Pokémon who were previously single stagers:

Joke Pokémon:

Farfetch'd
Unown
Dunsparce
Delibird
Spinda
Stunfisk

Honorary mentions:
Qwilfish
Girafarig
Stantler
Phione

Pikachu clones:

Pikachu clones in general are created to be child-like figures, which makes the idea of them having an infant form confusing. However, other elemental counterparts of Pikachu have gained pre-evolutions, such as Jigglypuff/Clefairy and Marill, which makes this a non-issue.
Plusle
Minun
Pachirisu
Emolga

Pokémon created specifically for gameplay mechanics:

Ditto
Shuckle
Smeargle
Castform
Kecleon*
Chatot

Genderless Pokémon:

Lunatone
Solrock
Rotom
Cryogonal

Fossil Pokémon:

Aerodatcyl

Honorary mention:
Relicanth.

Pokémon with counterparts that got pre-evolutions:


Hitmontop-Hitmonlee-Hitmonchan's counterparts:
Sawk
Throh

Roselia's counterparts:
Tropius
Carnivine
Maractus

Mantine's counterpart:
Skarmory

Chansey's counterpart:
Audino

Honorary mention:
Alomomola

Other previously rare Pokémon:


Rare Safari Zone Pokémon(much like Chansey):
Scyther(-Scizor)
Pinsir
Kangaskhan
Tauros

Trade-only Pokémon(much like Jynx and Mr. Mime)
Lickitung(-Lickilicky)

Other single stagers:

Lapras
Heracross
Corsola
Miltank
Sableye
Mawile
Volbeat
Illumise
Torkoal
Seviper
Zangoose
Absol
Spiritomb
Basculin
Sigilyph
Druddigon
Boufallant
Heatmor
Durant

Other previously single-stagers:

Onix-Steelix
Tangela-Tangrowth
Aipom-Ambipom
Yanma-Yanmega
Murkrow-Honchkrow
Misdreavus-Mismagius
Gligar-Gliscor
Sneasel-Weavile
Nosepass-Probopass

Two-stagers

Fossil Pokémon:

Omanyte-Omastar
Kabuto-Kobutops
Lileep-Cradily
Anorith-Armaldo
Cradily-Rampardos
Shieldon-Bastiodon

Genderless Pokémon:

Voltorb-Electrode
Baltoy-Claydol
Bronzor-Bronzong
Golett-Golurk

Pokémon with counterparts that got pre-evolutions:

Pikachu, Clefairy, Jigglypuff and Marill's counterpart:
Minccino(-Cinccino)

Note: Members of this line are much more common than their counterparts.

Other Pokémon allowed in Amity Square(and thus are considered cute by the developers):

Psyduck(-Golduck)**
Shroomish(-Breloom)
Skitty(-Delcatty)
Drifloon(-Drifblim)
Buneary(-Lopunny)

Other Fairy Egg group Pokémon:

Snubbull-Granbull
Snorunt-Glalie/Froslass
Cherubi-Cherrim
Cottonee-Whimsicott

Other Human-Like Egg group Pokémon:

Drowzee-Hypno
Makuhita-Hariyama
Meditite-Medicham
Cacnea-Cacturne
Croagunk-Toxicroak
Elgyem-Beheeyem
Mienfoo-Mienshao
Pawniard-Bisharp

Everything else is much more debatable. But let's discuss some of them:
-Eevee already shares many traits with other baby Pokémon.
-Popular Pokémon such as Vulpix, Growlithe and Petilil already share visual traits with baby Pokémon, featured along with them in various merchandise and are early route Pokémon, though hadn't stopped them before. Same goes for Deerling, Cubchoo and Teddiursa.
-Sandslash and Sandshrew are visually similiar to Pikachu-line, but any conclusions can't be made.
-Meowth is sort of a counterpart to Pikachu, especially due to their animé incarnations' interactions with each other, but in games this is much more shaky.
-Elemental monkeys are pseudo-mascots of Gen V and have been made secondary starters in Gen V games, and this will likely continue, but I can hardly think of anything besides a secondary Tyrogue-esque baby.
-Munna is the mascot of Dream World, and it is large enough to have a baby, but I much prefer to dream a psychedelic Musharna evolution that will never happen. But yes, it is possible I guess.
-Other common determinators for generically cute Pokémon can be the ones with high female to male ratio, and ones that obtain Splash, Fake Tears, Attract, Charm and Captivate through leveling up or breeding, though this is a minimal factor compared to initial and current rarity of a Pokémon. Cute Charm, is of course a no brainer as well.
-Currently there hasn't been any baby Pokémon to a Pokémon that initially had a non-tall grass/surf/fishing method of obtaining that weren't given out as an Egg, were given away, didn't appear in a Safari Zone/was a Casino prize, were given in a trade or were interactable in the overworld. This includes Headbutt Pokémon, Rock Smash Pokémon, Honey tree Pokémon, dust cloud Pokémon, flying Pokémon's shadow Pokémon and others.

*It should be mentioned that Kecleon fullified the duty of a road block Pokémon, much like Sudowoodo and Snorlax, who obtained pre-evolutions. However, this Kecleon opted to flee instead.
**Psyduck served a similar purpose in D/P/Pt, but they also fled instead.

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Updated 18th June 2013 at 02:58 PM by Trainer Yusuf

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  1. Bolt the Cat's Avatar
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    How are Tropius, Carnivine, and Maractus Roselia counterparts? They don't seem to have much in common besides being initial single stage Grass types, and that's not a strong enough reason to label them counterparts.

    Anyway, I think Druddigon and Tauros/Miltank should get baby forms. Druddigon so we would have a fairly early game Dragon type, and Tauros/Miltank so Tauros can benefit from Egg Moves and breeding its DW ability.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bolt the Cat
    How are Tropius, Carnivine, and Maractus Roselia counterparts? They don't seem to have much in common besides being initial single stage Grass types, and that's not a strong enough reason to label them counterparts.

    Anyway, I think Druddigon and Tauros/Miltank should get baby forms. Druddigon so we would have a fairly early game Dragon type, and Tauros/Miltank so Tauros can benefit from Egg Moves and breeding its DW ability.
    Role-wise they are pretty similar. All three of them are available after you encounter the regional early Grass-type Pokémon but mid-gam rather than early-game, all three of them have mediocre offensive stats, all three of them started off as single stagers and have very shallow movepools. I do admit that Tropius and Carnivine are more closely tied to each other and to Tangela than they are tied to Roselia since they have specific requirements/low encounter rates, whereas Roselia is fairly common even though it is only only unavailable in one area.

    Edit: And of course, Maractus has more similarities to Roselia than it has with Tropius/Carnivine because of its similar encounter rate and area.

    Edit 2: Though I agree with your other suggestions.
    Updated 26th May 2013 at 09:17 AM by Trainer Yusuf

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