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Pokemon the Series: XY: Trailer 02-- My Thoughts

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So, it looks like we're coming up on the 5th series of the Pokemon Anime. 16 years of this stuff already, with no end in sight. *sigh*

Right now, my opinions about the XY Series are the following:

[U]What I Like[/U]

- Ash looks a lot more badass than usual in the XY Series.
- Serena seems to know Ash as a childhood friend.
- Serena seems interesting, and it's cool that she is supposedly a stylist.
- Officer Jenny looks much better than she did in BW (thanks to Team Gaara for correcting my stupidity here). Still a bit off, but much better than before.
- The Animation is [I]excellent[/I].

[U]What I'm Neutral About[/U]

- Bonnie. She does look cute, but I'm not particularly excited about her character.
The "wife for Clemont" gag will probably be funny at first, and then get stale fast, like Cilan's food puns and eccentric speech did after a while.

Also, as far as the dub goes, I honestly (no offense intended) think Lisa Ortiz would suck as Bonnie. IMO, please don't cast her there. She works better as a teenage girl or older female (e.g. Lina Inverse). Most of us are already halfway traumatized by 4Kids using her for every Gym Leader or two, and TPCi sparing us for two seasons, and then returning the tradition of overusing her since mid-DP onwards in [I]full[/I] force. Lisa's a good voice actor, but [I]anyone[/I] would get sick of listening to that voice on a daily basis. I'm sorry. Hire someone new, or someone who can actually act well as a little girl, or maybe a real little girl would work, too, dubbers.

- Clemont. Really, he's obviously the Brock or Cilan of the group. The only thing that intrigues me about him is that he's supposedly a sort of inventor, which is sort of neat. His seiyu sounds like the second coming of Dento/Cilan's to me already (I'm sorry, that's what my ears tell me from my initial impression, even though I know it is NOT Mamoru Miyano).

- Giovanni's Businessman Attire. His outfits just keep on getting weaker, though. His Italian Mafia Orange Jumpsuit was KING.

[U]What I Do Not Like[/U]

- Team Rocket's return. As I watch the English dub (as supposedly "terrible" as both dubs are), I will probably have to deal with the usual alliteration show Carter Cathcart has given the characters in English since circa DP Season 1. You know, that juvenile humor that I can't comprehend for some reason. Forgetting the dub, how many years of their same crap do we have to watch? 16 years of blasting off again, and pretty much staying static characters the whole time.

God forbid that after three series of having them as goofs already, BW changed something for the better [I]initially[/I] (prior to Da!), and allowed the group to develop as characters somewhat. Sure, their personalities were non-existent, but at least some progress was being made in their case. Apparently the fandom has a double standard in which Ash regressing is the apocalypse, but when Team Rocket progresses, it's blasphemy. Again, people wonder why the OS characters, including Ash, have become staler than wonderbread these days. One reason for this, is that the writers don't try anything remotely new with them, and it's been the same thing over and over again, right? Why not try something remotely different for a change? Just my two cents.

- Nurse Joy's XY character art/design looks straight up awful.

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Updated 20th September 2013 at 07:12 PM by Pokémon Master Ash

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  1. Pokémon Master Ash's Avatar
    Cool, man.
  2. MizuTaipu's Avatar
    I don't think Sakaki's XY outfit looks that bad. It looks similar to his outfit in HG/SS. I do agree with you on Joy, though. I never liked the straight bangs she has had since BW.
  3. Pokémon Master Ash's Avatar
    [QUOTE=MizuTaipu;bt295570]I don't think Sakaki's XY outfit looks that bad. It looks similar to his outfit in HG/SS. I do agree with you on Joy, though. I never liked the straight bangs she has had since BW.[/QUOTE]
    Giovanni's outfit isn't [I]bad[/I] persay, but I just think his Orange Suit and the BW Suit looked more intimidating for the leader of Team Rocket, that's all. I respect your opinion, though.

    Yeah: Joy doesn't look good here.
  4. Kalos Adventurer's Avatar
    Nurse Joy's outfit is terrifying. She's really creeping me out.
    I'm liking what I've seen in this new series.
  5. Darth Darkrai's Avatar
    I can't STAND Nurse Joy's Outfit MEEEEEEEEEKKKKKKKKK, Also Rosenfield had better stay as Her
  6. Team Gaara's Avatar
    - Officer Jenny looks much better than she did in XY.
    I think you mean BW? And I certainly agree.

    Also, as far as the dub goes, I honestly (no offense intended) think Lisa Ortiz would suck as Bonnie. IMO, please don't cast her there. She works better as a teenage girl or older female (e.g. Lina Inverse).
    I don't think that's confirmed, just speculated. I actually like her voice better for younger characters, personally. I'd much rather hear her as Bonnie than Serena, for example. Especially given what we know about Bonnie's personality, I think Lisa Ortiz would be good for her~

    - Nurse Joy's XY character art/design looks straight up awful.
    While I don't think it's awful, I do have to wonder why they made her hair "rings" higher. It just looks strange to me.
  7. Pokémon Master Ash's Avatar
    [QUOTE=Team Gaara;bt295575]I think you mean BW? And I certainly agree.



    I don't think that's confirmed, just speculated. I actually like her voice better for younger characters, personally. I'd much rather hear her as Bonnie than Serena, for example. Especially given what we know about Bonnie's personality, I think Lisa Ortiz would be good for her~



    While I don't think it's awful, I do have to wonder why they made her hair "rings" higher. It just looks strange to me.[/QUOTE]
    (1) ROFL. *Facepalms at My Stupidity* Sorry, that's what I meant.
    (2) Really? Well, to each their own. It's all just a matter of opinion.
    (3) Yeah: it's...eccentric...for lack of a better word. Exactly.
  8. Darth Darkrai's Avatar
    Ash and Serena Interactions are Going to be GRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATTTTTTTTT
  9. Pokémon Master Ash's Avatar
    [QUOTE=Chocadial;bt295577]Ash and Serena Interactions are Going to be GRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATTTTTTTTT[/QUOTE]
    Agreed wholeheartedly: that's probably what I'm most excited about.
  10. The Fighting Misty's Avatar
    I'm kinda wondering about Bonnie too. As we've seen with Max, there's only so much you can do with a little kid character who doesn't have pokemon really.

    And I bet Bonnie will try to get every female to meet Clemont, which feels like a blatant parallel to Brock's flirting gag. Still it might be interesting, but I can see her character getting a bit useless halfway into the saga
  11. Pokémon Master Ash's Avatar
    [QUOTE=The Fighting Misty;bt295581]I'm kinda wondering about Bonnie too. As we've seen with Max, there's only so much you can do with a little kid character who doesn't have pokemon really.

    And I bet Bonnie will try to get every female to meet Clemont, which feels like a blatant parallel to Brock's flirting gag. Still it might be interesting, but I can see her character getting a bit useless halfway into the saga[/QUOTE]
    My thoughts exactly. :thumbup:
  12. SatoHaruFan2248's Avatar
    About Serena, she could be Ash's cousin. That's what they meant by Serena saying she has known Ash since she was young. What I would love to see is May return with Mega Blaziken and Mega Venusaur. She would be wearing an outfit like her original one but with Ash's Hoenn hat.
  13. Pokémon Master Ash's Avatar
    [QUOTE=SatoHaruFan2248;bt295585]About Serena, she could be Ash's cousin. That's what they meant by Serena saying she has known Ash since she was young. What I would love to see is May return with Mega Blaziken and Mega Venusaur. She would be wearing an outfit like her original one but with Ash's Hoenn hat.[/QUOTE]
    Possibly regarding Serena: good theory. Yeah, I miss May too: that would be a really cool choice for her outfit. Knowing the writers, I doubt anyone but Ash and TRio are going to be around for XY regarding the prior characters that return. I know: it really sucks.
  14. Hurricane Kishore's Avatar
    [B]Jessie , James & Mewoth aren't meant to be serious Villain ! They are suppose to be ''Goofy Good People'' trying to be Bad . Thats what their character stand for !!! [/B]

    Like Momiji Binboda (Binougami) , Jian (Doraemon) !!!

    I believe , That Anime should try to show their funny & Good side correctly which both DP Series & BW series failed to do .
  15. Pokémon Master Ash's Avatar
    [QUOTE=Hurricane Kishore;bt295622][B]Jessie , James & Mewoth aren't meant to be serious Villain ! They are suppose to be ''Goofy Good People'' trying to be Bad . Thats what their character stand for !!! [/B]

    Like Momiji Binboda (Binougami) , Jian (Doraemon) !!!

    I believe , That Anime should try to show their funny & Good side correctly which both DP Series & BW series failed to do .[/QUOTE]
    Personally, this would be fine with me: what you're stating really reminds me of the OS TRio or Episode N TRio when you put it that way. Those were my favorite versions of the characters so far.

    I understand where your coming from: but, my question is, is it really worth keeping them in an endless loop of cyclical failure at this point, culminating in getting reprimanded (scolded) by Giovanni for their failure, anymore? When you think about it, this is NO different from how Ash was regressed. It's a double standard to say they MUST be comedic, while Ash MUST progress. It's been three series of them acting goofy (excluding BWS2: Da!)...it's really time for some sort of development for poor TRio: BW did that well, but the problem was that it ended up sacrificing their personalities in the process. There has to be a better way of making them semi-competent while maintaining their personalities, without regressing them back to [U]complete[/U] idiots.

    Ash regressed in BW, [I]not[/I] something I support (I understand your pain there, believe me), but I do admit he had some actual [I]personality[/I] for once since AG. He was pretty much a battling machine in DP in my eyes: he really faltered in terms of how[I] flat[/I] his personality was in DP, despite being at his strongest point in terms of how good he was as a trainer (which was great). My point here is this: doesn't Team Rocket deserve to progress too, like Ash? If not, then[I] what the heck[/I] are they still doing on the show? Just there to act cute, blast off, and then do their "jari-boy" or "twerp" comments? What I'm getting at here is...where's the goal, then?
    Updated 21st September 2013 at 04:36 AM by Pokémon Master Ash
  16. Hurricane Kishore's Avatar
    [QUOTE=EmotionalTensionPKMN;bt295623]Personally, this would be fine with me: what you're stating really reminds me of the OS TRio or Episode N TRio when you put it that way. Those were my favorite versions of the characters so far.

    I understand where your coming from: but, my question is, is it really worth keeping them in an endless loop of cyclical failure at this point, culminating in getting reprimanded (scolded) by Giovanni for their failure, anymore? When you think about it, this is NO different from how Ash was regressed. It's a double standard to say they MUST be comedic, while Ash MUST progress. It's been three series of them acting goofy (excluding BWS2: Da!)...it's really time for some sort of development for poor TRio: BW did that well, but the problem was that it ended up sacrificing their personalities in the process. There has to be a better way of making them semi-competent while maintaining their personalities, without regressing them back to [U]complete[/U] idiots.

    Ash regressed in BW, [I]not[/I] something I support (I understand your pain there, believe me), but I do admit he had some actual [I]personality[/I] for once since AG. He was pretty much a battling machine in DP in my eyes: he really faltered in terms of how[I] flat[/I] his personality was in DP, despite being at his strongest point in terms of how good he was as a trainer (which was great). My point here is this: doesn't Team Rocket deserve to progress too, like Ash? If not, then[I] what the heck[/I] are they still doing on the show? Just there to act cute, blast off, and then do their "jari-boy" or "twerp" comments? What I'm getting at here is...where's the goal, then?[/QUOTE]

    If You're talking about endless loop , Then Nobody wants Ash to lose the League and start a new journey in Gen VII .
    At this Moment , The Anime is in Risk in both way -

    -If Writer keep Ash & Pikachu then All older Fan might get tired and leave the series Permanently like I will . Plus Kids with little Brain can do Online search and realize that Ash never won a League for 16 year So he will never win one So they might Drop the series because their no point watching it anymore if Protagonist never meant to succeed .

    -If Writer Replace Ash then Older fan might or might not leave the Show Considering they already had enough of Ash for 15 year . Plus A New Protagonist will bring a new hope and attract newer audience . Also Older Fan might be interest to see Ash again as in ''Cynthia Role'' !!!

    So You see , Replacing Ash has less risk then not replacing Ash .
    Plus , The way the TV Rating Dropped , Writer might consider ending Ash's Journey .
    Because Keeping Ash for Next Gen is a Burden ! Writer can't come up with better series because they always had to think about Keeping Ash for Next Gen !!!
    [B]If They ever decide to create Pokemon series which meant to end then they will be able to create the Best Series .[/B]
    If Pokemon Anime stuff is as smart as Professional then they should understand this by now So they just might end Ash era in XY series .
    If they honestly believe that they go on forever if they target ''Doreamon''s Audience then current gap between both Anime's TV Rating prove that the So-called ''Doraemon''s Audience rejected Pokemon.
    After all , Pokemon meant to be in ''Shouene'' genre !!! Do you think ''One Picec'' Or ''Bleach'' would be popular if they target children instate of Teenager ????

    From that case , Team Rocket funny behavior will come in handy .
    [B]I believe , Jessie & James suppose to be character who start off as enemy but later become great friends ! But Writer decided to go endless and that's Why Team Rocket gone Boring .[/B]
    If XY Series is Ash's final era then Team Rocket should start off as goofy Antagonist .
    Another problem with DP & BW series is that , [B]The DP & BW series never focused on the relationship between Ash & Team Rocket! But Ash & Team rocket need to be have funny ''Love & Hate relationship .[/B]

    IF POKEMON GONE ENDLESS THEN JESSIE , JAMES & MEWOTH WILL NEVER BE A ENJOYABLE CHARACTER AGAIN EVEN IF THEY BECOME SERIOUS OR GOOFY !!!
    Updated 21st September 2013 at 06:32 AM by Hurricane Kishore
  17. Pokémon Master Ash's Avatar
    [QUOTE=Hurricane Kishore;bt295630]If You're talking about endless loop , Then Nobody wants Ash to lose the League and start a new journey in Gen VII .
    At this Moment , The Anime is in Risk in both way -

    -If Writer keep Ash & Pikachu then All older Fan might get tired and leave the series Permanently like I will . Plus Kids with little Brain can do Online search and realize that Ash never won a League for 16 year So he will never win one So they might Drop the series because their no point watching it anymore if Protagonist never meant to succeed .

    -If Writer Replace Ash then Older fan might or might not leave the Show Considering they already had enough of Ash for 15 year . Plus A New Protagonist will bring a new hope and attract newer audience . Also Older Fan might be interest to see Ash again as in ''Cynthia Role'' !!!

    So You see , Replacing Ash has less risk then not replacing Ash .
    Plus , The way the TV Rating Dropped , Writer might consider ending Ash's Journey .
    Because Keeping Ash for Next Gen is a Burden ! Writer can't come up with better series because they always had to think about Keeping Ash for Next Gen !!!
    [B]If They ever decide to create Pokemon series which meant to end then they will be able to create the Best Series .[/B]
    If Pokemon Anime stuff is as smart as Professional then they should understand this by now So they just might end Ash era in XY series .
    If they honestly believe that they go on forever if they target ''Doreamon''s Audience then current gap between both Anime's TV Rating prove that the So-called ''Doraemon''s Audience rejected Pokemon.
    After all , Pokemon meant to be in ''Shouene'' genre !!! Do you think ''One Picec'' Or ''Bleach'' would be popular if they target children instate of Teenager ????

    From that case , Team Rocket funny behavior will come in handy .
    [B]I believe , Jessie & James suppose to be character who start off as enemy but later become great friends ! But Writer decided to go endless and that's Why Team Rocket gone Boring .[/B]
    If XY Series is Ash's final era then Team Rocket should start off as goofy Antagonist .
    Another problem with DP & BW series is that , [B]The DP & BW series never focused on the relationship between Ash & Team Rocket! But Ash & Team rocket need to be have funny ''Love & Hate relationship .[/B]

    IF POKEMON GONE ENDLESS THEN JESSIE , JAMES & MEWOTH WILL NEVER BE A ENJOYABLE CHARACTER AGAIN EVEN IF THEY BECOME SERIOUS OR GOOFY !!![/QUOTE]

    That all works for me. The problem is for me it feels like it's never going to end, you know? However, your ideas for how to handle Team Rocket in XY are fitting and make them decent characters again to me. :)
    Updated 21st September 2013 at 09:48 AM by Pokémon Master Ash
  18. Hurricane Kishore's Avatar
    I Opinion , [B]Watch the series for 6 month & then post a review blog !!![/B]
    Now , The trailer might be great but we got disappointed when the actual episode air's
  19. Pokémon Master Ash's Avatar
    [QUOTE=Hurricane Kishore;bt295675]I Opinion , [B]Watch the series for 6 month & then post a review blog !!![/B]
    Now , The trailer might be great but we got disappointed when the actual episode air's[/QUOTE]
    Good idea. Will do: I guess we'll see how they are this series. Hopefully, I'm wrong about them being the second coming of DP TRio. :thumbup:
    Updated 21st September 2013 at 04:14 PM by Pokémon Master Ash
  20. The Fighting Misty's Avatar
    From where we are now, I *think* the series will be like DP based on the amount of action in the preview and the way Ash looks in the trailer.

    However the 4-person group, and a little kid character in the group, will obviously remind everyone of AG. This group also looks like it might have great chemistry too, so depending on how it goes at least watching the main characters interaction should be good.

    Obviously its too early to say anything else about it yet, for all we know the series could either be amazing or be terrible. I just hope Serena doesn't turn into a Dawn clone sans the Contests.