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If Haters gonna hate, can Hatee hate back?

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by , 28th January 2012 at 10:42 PM (184 Views)
The question says it all.

If people are going to hate and be mean to you, does that give you the right to hate them back?

It's the opposite of the Golden Rule, really. But it's something I've had on my head for a really long time.

Recently, an ex of mine has started dating my friend. My relationship with this ex ended pretty roughly, so much to the point that she hasn't talked to me since. I've been cool about it so far. My friend and I haven't argued about it or anything, and I haven't sparked up anything with the ex.

But she's been telling my friend these horribly fake things. How I only date girls if I think they're slutty. How I'm only friends with people who I will gain from. But most importantly, how much I hate my ex, his current girlfriend.

I've tried being mature in this situation, but it's not something I can exactly decide when I hear her telling lies about me in front of my face.

So I've been wondering if, since she's the one starting entirely fake rumors about me, am I morally allowed to hate back? Not by starting rumors like her, but simply by feeling hatred towards her?

Though I don't exactly believe in Karma, I do believe in the message it sends. Do good, get good. Do bad, get bad. But how often do you see someone doing good getting good? The nicest people tend to be the people with the least.

On the flip side, think of how many total horrible people are rich, famous, and getting good. Charlie Sheen, who received something like 1.2 million dollars per episode of Two and a Half Men before getting suspended, has done horrible things. Cocaine, domestic violence on at least 3 accounts, even shooting his fiancee. And still, this guy is making bucket loads of money.

Now I know that not rich people are mean and not all poor people are nice. Charlie Sheen isn't exactly a shining example of celebrity achievement. But still, I'm just expressing my point. Karma isn't always true.

Which is why I've ask this question: Am I morally allowed to hate someone if they hate me?

I honestly don't know the answer to this question. But oh well, I just needed to rant. And for all you people out there thinking, "oh please, high school drama in a blog post?", remember that this sort of stuff is important to kids. We're just trying to learn how to live our lives so that we can get it right.

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Updated 28th January 2012 at 10:52 PM by Jester

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  1. Octy's Avatar
    Well, that's up to you really. I don't think you should hate anyone, but that's just my personal belief. I mean, I highly doubt you only date girls who are sluts. You don't seem like that type of guy. You're really funny, sweet, and a great person to talk to. I wouldn't let what's going on get to you. But if your friend chooses to believe the lies that this girl is telling him, then you just have to stop being friends and move on. He should have enough sense to know if it's the truth or not.
  2. Phoenix502's Avatar
    if anything, the likely best thing to avoid this from escalating is to try and talk to your ex, see if you can ask your friend (who is apparently her new guy) to help you out. If he really is your friend, he should likely know you about as much, likely more than your ex.

    your friend should know you well enough to tell who's lying and who's not. so while you have every right to get mad in response, all that really does is fuel her rumors... so yeah, it'd probably be best to tactfully address these problems before it escalates. but in the event it doesn't work, blow off the rumors or, hell, go out of your way to prove they're not true... if someone realizes what's really going on, they will get the hint.
  3. Jester's Avatar
    Octy- I'm not saying I will hate back, I was just wondering if it's, I guess, wrong to get upset about it. I wouldn't do anything to retaliate, I just wasn't sure if getting angered by things like these is reasonable. And trust me, I'm not the kind of guy who dates slutty girls. I actually kind of get disgusted by the really slutty girls. Next time, wear the whole outfit!

    Phoenix- I've tried this, but it hasn't done anything. Nothing to do with how I feel towards her, but talking to her is like talking to a wall. She doesn't show any signs of emotion and apparently retains nothing from what I've asked of her. He is my friend, though we just started talking recently, so he isn't 100% sure of my motives.

    The thing is, he can't decide who is telling the truth between his girlfriend and me. We were dating when he moved here (about two months ago) and we were both his friends. That's why it's a little rocky with the trust issue. But you're advice, to prove them wrong, is what I'm most likely going to follow, though I'm not quite sure how I would do that...


    Thanks for both of your advice.

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