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Kyurem and Ghetsis: A Past Encounter at Giant Chasm?

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I made this post some time ago in the Placeholder for Kyurem in BW thread, which is now closed. Since I frequently visit Giant Chasm in-game, this happened to cross my mind again, so I just felt like putting this in my blog orz.




So I just noticed that, near the entrance to Giant Chasm cave, there are stairs that lead to a broken bridge. Could this bridge have once lead straight to Kyurem's cave? If so, why would there have been direct access to the cave?

Personally, I think Ghetsis may have had something to do with this. I have a theory that he once tried to capture Kyurem a long time ago, well before N was conceived, and failed miserably. There are a couple things that could possibly point to a previous encounter with Kyurem. First of all, there's the eye patch over his right eye. Of course, everyone has seen this. But what a lot of people may not have noticed is his right arm, as seen in the opening cinematic for Pokemon Black and White:



It is completely black, in contrast to his left arm. This is only seen in the opening cinematic. In official art and in-game, he keeps his right arm concealed at all times. I believe that Ghetsis may have received severe frostbite injuries from one of Kyurem's ice attacks (possibly Glaciate). Although, for his arm to turn completely black, he would've had to have gone days without receiving medical treatment. When frost-bitten, the skin only turns black in the most advanced stages of frostbite. As for the injury to his right eye, that may be the result of flying debris caused by one of Kyurem's attacks. Looking at the concept art for Ghetsis, his right eye is indeed badly scarred. He may have gone in without knowledge of how powerful Kyurem was. Or, if he did know, then he was probably overestimating the strength of his own Pokemon. In-game, the player character encounters Kyurem at level 75, one of the highest levels for a legendary Pokemon not just in Gen V, but compared to the other generations, as well.

As far as the bridge goes...I'm not really sure what to make of it. People have been frightened of Kyurem for centuries, to the point of creating baseless rumors about it. So why build a bridge that leads straight to the cave it lairs in? And I'm not sure if Ghetsis had anything to do with the construction of the bridge. If Team Plasma was in existence, then this could be possible. But, if anything, Ghetsis' encounter with Kyurem may have lead to Kyurem becoming enraged and possibly turning the area into a frozen wasteland (similar to when the player character reaches the small lake in the central area), destroying the bridge in the process and leaving Ghetsis stranded there for days.

An interesting side note, the description of Giant Chasm on the map reads as such:

Legend says that if you approach this big chasm, disasters surely follow.
Perhaps there is some truth to this legend?

If this turns out to be true, then I think we may get a little more backstory on Ghetsis in B2/W2.

As for why he would go through all this trouble...who knows. He seems to have a thing for (pseudo) legendary Dragon-type Pokemon. He used N to get to Zekrom/Reshiram, he had the orbs that belong to Dialga, Palkia, and Giratina, and he has a non-legit Hydreigon. Although this may speak towards his narcissistic personality more than anything.

I know this is merely speculation, but...I think its something interesting to talk about in regards to Kyurem?

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Updated 16th December 2012 at 07:47 PM by smalllady

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  1. Shiny Shinx's Avatar
    Wow. Alot of people here seem to anlize the whole Pokemon game fer awnsers for the next, or reasonability, or something like that.

    I agree with everything you said, except for the "pseudo" legendary part, 'cause he's like the Champion, you beat him, the credits roll. Game Freak had Ghetsis get Hydreigon 'cause they wanted it to be the toughest battle. You know what I mean? Just look at the other accual Champions.

    @smalllady
  2. Karamazov's Avatar
    Maybe Kyurem is N's mom, and Ghetsis's frostbitten arm was caused by their love?
  3. smalllady's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Shiny Shinx
    I agree with everything you said, except for the "pseudo" legendary part, 'cause he's like the Champion, you beat him, the credits roll. Game Freak had Ghetsis get Hydreigon 'cause they wanted it to be the toughest battle. You know what I mean? Just look at the other accual Champions.
    I wasn't referring to the difficulty level. Hydreigon is considered the pseudo-legendary Pokemon of Gen V.
  4. Shiny Shinx's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by smalllady
    I wasn't referring to the difficulty level. Hydreigon is considered the pseudo-legendary Pokemon of Gen V.
    Ok...And?
  5. smalllady's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Shiny Shinx
    Ok...And?
    So why did you disagree when I referred to Hydreigon being a pseudo-legendary Pokemon? I wasn't discrediting Ghetsis' role as the final boss of the game.
  6. Crystal Onix's Avatar
    Wow, smalllady, you continue to amaze me. I'd been taking these things for granted. Do you figure last year's celebi will have a role in the plot/backstory much like it unlocked the Giovanni bit in HG/SS, or that there'll be a new celebi/dialga event aimed at B/W2's giant chasm, then?
    Updated 19th March 2012 at 02:39 PM by Crystal Onix (Edited to subscribe)
  7. Tsutarja's Avatar
    Ah, I knew something was off with his arm. Your theory certainly is possible. :D
  8. Shiny Shinx's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by smalllady
    So why did you disagree when I referred to Hydreigon being a pseudo-legendary Pokemon? I wasn't discrediting Ghetsis' role as the final boss of the game.
    Well, you DID say that he has a thing for pseudo-legendaries, but I'm sayn' he does only 'cause he's the final boss of the game.
  9. smalllady's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Shiny Shinx
    Well, you DID say that he has a thing for pseudo-legendaries, but I'm sayn' he does only 'cause he's the final boss of the game.
    I said he has a thing for legendary Dragon-type Pokemon, and put "pseudo" in parentheses since Hydreigon is the exception.
  10. Shiny Shinx's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by smalllady
    I said he has a thing for legendary Dragon-type Pokemon, and put "pseudo" in parentheses since Hydreigon is the exception.
    Oh. Oops.
  11. smalllady's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Antiproton
    Wow, smalllady, you continue to amaze me. I'd been taking these things for granted. Do you figure last year's celebi will have a role in the plot/backstory much like it unlocked the Giovanni bit in HG/SS, or that there'll be a new celebi/dialga event aimed at B/W2's giant chasm, then?
    I think the HG/SS Celebi has already served its role of uncovering Giovanni's backstory. And I don't think they would distribute another Celebi just to uncover the possible Kyurem/Ghetsis backstory, since Celebi is unrelated to the mythology of Unova (aside from unlocking the encounter with Zorua in Castelia City).

    If anything, I think certain NPCs (including Ghetsis) will only make brief references to this past encounter.

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