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It is a nice day today right? Plus the Pokemon episodes were great! I wish Ghetsis' english voice grew on me though. But I still like Ghetsis-chan! Wonder if he is anyone else's favorite villain as well.

However, I was surprised that he didn't use the pronoun "oresama" in the Japanese version. "oresama" means "i, myself" but the "sama" is a confidence booster. Thus is why I use it alot. (But Masaaki-chan said that it's not a word people normally use. Just in situations)

[Oh before anyone complains about the "-chan", people use it not only for people but for pets and objects as well. So I use it for my favorite characters but it's not only limited to my favorites haha. I often use it for every person I speak to. Look on Iwane Masaaki's blog and you'll see I call him "Masaaki-chan". My way of being friendly. I am learning Japanese, so if I want to use it, I can. Unless the person tells me not to call them that, then I will not call them that]

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Updated 25th May 2013 at 03:21 PM by みさあき

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  1. Kyriaki's Avatar
    @Haruhi.;
    Polite level Watakushi>>Watashi>Boku>Ore>>>Oresama Arrogant level

    "Oresama" is used to say "I" in a very arrogant way, considering they're above others. Also, "Ore" in itself isn't exactly a polite way to say "I", thus, which is why girls rarely use it. And even though "Ore" is found among boys more often, irl boys generally use "Boku" instead as well when casually speaking. Politeness is a virtue, and thus even girls using "Boku" is considered rude - which is why they use "Watashi".

    I guess it doesn't matter much on the internet, but in case you're talking to someone in real life, I'd advise that you don't use "Oresama".


    Ghetsis, while he may seem arrogant, he was an educated sage and probably still holds on to some minimum politeness when speaking to people, it seems. At least he has some dignity... maybe.
  2. みさあき's Avatar
    @Spectrum Achromatic

    Akuちゃん、I understand. It's very weird how the guys can use 俺 and ぼく but some people will tell me "stop using あたし!" or stop using "俺様!"; I want to be friendly. I don't want to talk to people like I'm talking to royalty :(
  3. Kyriaki's Avatar
    @Haruhi.;
    "Atashi" is a cute way to say "Watashi". In a lot of anime or drama, really cute girly characters or young girls use "Atashi" when they're trying to sound cute. It could sound friendly and I don't know why people would deliberately tell you to not use "Atashi". But regardless, it is definitely less polite form of "Watashi".

    Again... it is best if you just don't use "Oresama" unless you're joking about something. It's not polite, and it's not really a good form of "I" to use casually.

    There are a lot of things I don't know about the Japanese culture and those who speak Japanese on the Internet, but to be safe, use "Watashi" when speaking to people. "Watashi" is the most widely used form of "I" among girls, because it can be both used casually and formally. It isn't always used when talking to royalty.

    And speaking of royalty... you would consider using "Watakushi" if you ever talk to someone of royalty because the utmost polite manners will be required XDD
  4. Tsurugi's Avatar
    Using "sama" on yourself isn't so much a "confidence boost" as it is an obnoxious inflation of narcissism. "Ore" is used to assert your masculinity and/or superiority. Using "ore-sama" makes you sound like a douchebag who won't shut up about the side if his penis.

    Japanese culture as a whole puts massive emphasis on showing respect and politeness. Between your use of "omae" and liberal usage of "ore-sama", you sound like like a punk who doesn't respect anyone. You may think you're being friendly, but others probably don't. Being impolite to people who aren't your friends and family is the same as insulting them.

    Women are generally expected to be polite more than men. Men can use "ore" and "boku" because men are expected to assert themselves and not use so much formal language. "Atashi" is an informal pronoun, and using outside of casual situations is inappropriate and rude. As a woman you are expected to be respectful and doing otherwise is to not knowing your place in society. This is moderately sexist, but that's how Japanese society is.

    Quote Originally Posted by Spectrum Achromatic
    Also, "Ore" in itself isn't exactly a polite way to say "I", thus, which is why girls rarely use it.
    "Ore" is male only and a woman using it is non-existent outside of anime.
  5. Kyriaki's Avatar
    @Tsurugi; hence, which is why I said 'rare'. I think I heard a woman say it in a drama some years ago, although I am not entirely sure if I'm remembering correctly and may have misheard it.

    But anyways, yeah, just stick to using "Watashi".
  6. みさあき's Avatar
    I see Tsurugi-chan. However another reason I use "oresama" is so that I can feel I am on the same level as everyone else. I love to learn Japanese, but I have noticed that non native speakers in particular do talk down to me when I don't speak on their level. I don't like being talked down to. I know most of the pokemon fanbase on forums are in their 30s but I am not stupid. But ufortinatly people do treat me like I am stupid.
  7. Kyriaki's Avatar
    @Haruhi.; No no... there's a misunderstanding. Using "sama" DOES NOT put you on the same level as everyone else. By using the word "-Sama", like for example, "I like Pikachu-sama!" means that you're worshipping Pikachu and placing yourself as Pika's inferior, being his supporter/fan/whatever.

    If you're using "Oresama", it means you're ranking yourself higher than everybody else and putting them all inferior then you. That's why "Oresama" is usually used by gangster bosses or someone like Ghetsis if he wasn't an educated sage. You may have used "Oresama" to be friendly, but you're unintentionally ranking the other person/people lower than you, making them inferior, so please don't use it as it is considered rude.

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