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Some people have been thinking that Hoenn might appear as a side-region in BW2, because they're "releasing all of the Hoenn starters/Weather Trio", etc.


It's not happening.


First of all: why not RSEmakes? I understand some people may not be fans of RS, but why would GF throw away an opportunity for a new game? And before you all say, "You can Pal Park/Poké Transfer all of your mons to BW anyway!", think about this.

The Pokémon franchise is aimed towards kids from ages 6 to 14, roughly.

Let's say a twelve year old played RSE. If he/she was born in 1999, and RS came out in 2003, then he/she'd be four years old when the Gen III games came out.

How many four year olds do you know who play Pokémon?

Yes, maybe YOU could Transfer Gen 3 mons to you Gen 5 games, but the vast majority of kids who play Pokémon can't, because they don't have the Gen 3 games.


And even if RSEmakes won't see release, why in BW2?

I understand Kanjoh, because they border each other, but Johto relied on Kanto.

But Hoenn and Unova?

It has been stressed, TIME AND TIME AGAIN, that Unova is very far away from the other regions. Having two areas on different sides of the world be in the same game is just unrealistic to me.

And the time difference problem?

Well, we know that Gen 5 takes place a while after Gen 3, so we might either have a sequel/remake hybrid (Takes place in future, but few differences), or they might troll us and screw up continuity by putting BW and RS in the same timeframe (They're masters at that, just look at Ash).

Even if those two don't work out, I HIGHLY DOUBT that it's grounds to cancel what might be a very successful game, and jamming the region into BW2.

/end of rant

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  1. Blazaking's Avatar
    Everyone is just thinking too much into this when we have literally no real information on Black 2 and White 2.
  2. Envoy's Avatar
    At this point, the theory that Hoenn will feature heavily in BW2 is no more or less valid than the theory about RSEmakes. We have a grand total of jack squat of information for those game.
  3. Zeb's Avatar
    I'm tired of, everytime a new game is announced/said to be announced, 2/3 of the forum going into "Hoenn mode"; where some invisible dots that prove it's going to be RSE remakes are joined, or like now, that Hoenn is going to be in the game because of things like the logos having red and blue on them (lol, just lol) or that we will definately take the aeroplane from Mistralton there (proof plz).

    It's incredibly tedious these days. Rather than focusing on BW2 itself, people are still just focusing on Hoenn.

    Don't get me wrong, I would love RSE remakes, but it's getting to the point that everytime a new discussion for a new game comes up, you just know that going to Hoenn/visiting Hoenn/RSE remakes are going to be brought up time and time again until the game's release. AND IT'S REALLY BORING NOW.

    Can we just discuss the current game, which will be set in Unova, please? ._.
  4. Baron Dante's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Blitzle
    Can we just discuss the current game, which will be set in Unova, please? ._.
    Sorry, but I find this line hilarious. You ramble about them not being RSE remakes because there is no proof. Then you say they will (emphasis on will) be in Unova. There's no more proof on that. Aside from, you know, common sense, but that's not a valid proof on anything.
  5. Zeb's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Baron Dante
    Sorry, but I find this line hilarious. You ramble about them not being RSE remakes because there is no proof. Then you say they will (emphasis on will) be in Unova. There's no more proof on that. Aside from, you know, common sense, but that's not a valid proof on anything.
    How is there no proof? Considering, ugh, BW were set in Unova. These games are based around the same legendaries as them. It's like saying that Emerald and Platinum weren't going to be set in the same region as their previous games. They certainly aren't going to introduce an entire new region since Reshiram, Zekrom and Kyu are clearly (emphasis on clearly) tied with Unova and no Kanto, Johto, Hoenn or Sinnoh. They aren't going to suddenly revert to an old region for what are essentially remakes with a twist.

    There's certainly more evidence they will be based in Unova than there is towards Hoenn. The Hoenn people are once again, literally grasping at straws. "OMG the guy in the desert mentioned the go-go goggles, therefore BW2 will definately take place in Hoenn!" Or... "OMG there's blue and red on the logo, that's a clear reference to R/S!"

    I find it hilarious that people are willing to say "there's no proof" as a counter argument against it taking place in Unova just because that's the argument that's being presented for Hoenn. It's like BW never happened at all and this is a new Gen or something.

    There you go, some more rambling just for you.
    Updated 28th February 2012 at 04:15 AM by Zeb
  6. Baron Dante's Avatar
    @Blitzle : I'm not making an counter-argument here. Because frankly, Hoenn being there is not happening.

    However, if I wanted to make an argument, I can point out that both Ghetsis and N are assumably out of Unova right now. Both are most likely gonig to be pretty important to the story. That alone can implicate the possibility of it not taking place in Unova.

    However, my personal believe is that it's neither. It's not Hoenn, nor is Unova, exactly. To be exact, we are getting this part of Unova in some form, and the remaining areas of Unova as the main area.

    Think Gen2, just without a "full" new region that allows you to backtrack after finishing with the League.

    Actually, now that we are talking about things, I found it curious that in the anime, the Champion League is being mentioned, and Cynthia also mentions such taking place soon enough in the games. I wouldn't write that off as an impossibility.

    Hell, I could make an argument for Sinnoh, but that'd be stupid.


    Bottom line, there is no undeniable proof to it taking place in Unova. Is it likely? Yes. Is it already decided? No.
  7. Zeb's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Baron Dante
    However, if I wanted to make an argument, I can point out that both Ghetsis and N are assumably out of Unova right now. Both are most likely gonig to be pretty important to the story. That alone can implicate the possibility of it not taking place in Unova.
    Yes, but what's stopping them returning to the source of where everything took place in BW? Just because they left doesn't mean they can't come back. Unova =/= the island from Lost.

    However, my personal believe is that it's neither. It's not Hoenn, nor is Unova, exactly. To be exact, we are getting this part of Unova in some form, and the remaining areas of Unova as the main area.

    Think Gen2, just without a "full" new region that allows you to backtrack after finishing with the League.
    I don't quite understand. Are you suggesting that we will visit the other half of Unova first, then go back through all the gym towns? If this is a sequel as everyone is saying, and it does take place in Unova, I hope it's Unova but "not as we know it". So things have changed over time. A nice example would be what Joshawott said; will the construction on Route 4 (the desert) be finished?

    Bottom line, there is no undeniable proof to it taking place in Unova. Is it likely? Yes. Is it already decided? No.
    I'm not saying that it will without a doubt be in Unova and that I know that for a fact, but it's going to be Unova more than it's going to be Hoenn, which is why all the Hoenn spec and dot-joining is irritating. Like the new bullet train promotions. That apparently now means we're getting R/S/E remakes soon. Dot-joining can be done with anything in a series as huge as pokemon, it doesn't mean that the dot-joining is not grasping at straws though.

    But, considering that the 10th annmiversary of Gen III is soon (I believe?), I won't rule out the possibilty of some hint towards Hoenn being in the game; I just highly doubt we'll be reliving Gen III in BW2.
  8. Baron Dante's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Blitzle
    Yes, but what's stopping them returning to the source of where everything took place in BW? Just because they left doesn't mean they can't come back. Unova =/= the island from Lost.

    Nothing. However, Ghetsis in particular, I would think, would be quite stupid to do so, being a wanted man and all.


    I don't quite understand. Are you suggesting that we will visit the other half of Unova first, then go back through all the gym towns? If this is a sequel as everyone is saying, and it does take place in Unova, I hope it's Unova but "not as we know it". So things have changed over time. A nice example would be what Joshawott said; will the construction on Route 4 (the desert) be finished?
    I didn't say it would take place immediately after. There could be time passed since. But what I meant was that there is still plenty of room in the Unova region to search beyond what BW did. Say, looking up to the north of the Unova map. I don't see why couldn't they at least partially expand there (Also, some areas where the Subway map indicates they could take us to, but don't, currently)

    I'm not saying that it will without a doubt be in Unova and that I know that for a fact, but it's going to be Unova more than it's going to be Hoenn, which is why all the Hoenn spec and dot-joining is irritating. Like the new bullet train promotions. That apparently now means we're getting R/S/E remakes soon. Dot-joining can be done with anything in a series as huge as pokemon, it doesn't mean that the dot-joining is not grasping at straws though.

    But, considering that the 10th annmiversary of Gen III is soon (I believe?), I won't rule out the possibilty of some hint towards Hoenn being in the game; I just highly doubt we'll be reliving Gen III in BW2.
    Well, you see, the reason I pointed the very first post out was because there was an interesting emphasis on "will" in an sentence "they WILL take place in Unova". That does indicate it as a fact. Which it currently isn't.

    Besides which, I still want the Kanto remakes.
  9. Kyumorph's Avatar
    I'm buying them because they're Pokemon games.


    I hated hoenn trololololololololololololololololo
  10. Envoy's Avatar
    I'm not gonna deny the possibility of Hoenn being featured in BW2 right now, because frankly, I don't know anything. However, it is very unlikely.

    What I do want to say is that the red/blue background being proof of Hoenn is a really stupid argument. Reshiram and Zekrom already have a bit of a red/blue motif going for them. Zekrom has red eyes while Reshiram has blue. Meanwhile, Reshiram's tail glow is red while Zekrom's is blue. The use of the two most overused colors in the entire gorram world isn't proof of anything at all. Now, if there was a giant orca and a Godzilla sillhouete in the background, then we'd be talking.

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