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It may be possible to get into heaven without believing in Jesus or God

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by , 10th December 2011 at 03:59 AM (701 Views)
I'm pretty sure that the Bible state - Twice - that the only way to get into hell was to deny the Holy Spirit. I could say I hate god and jesus, but not deny the spirit and get into heaven. So technically, if one goes "I HATE JESUS" but not "deny" (what ever that means) the holy spirit, you'll still go to heaven. Yes, Father, Holy Spirit, and Son are all "God" but apparently separate entities. Eat your heart out.

Or is what i'm saying insane and illogical

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  1. Oswin's Avatar
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    But God is "the holy spirit", so denying the holy spirit means denying God.
  2. eat's Avatar
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    You...don't know what "deny" means?
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  3. Blazaking's Avatar
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    I don't really believe in the Bible (Quran FTW), but er, outright denying God's existence isn't really helping your chances to get into Heaven.

    The "Holy Spirit" and God are the same thing. If you have some kind of belief in some supernatural being the overlooks all of us i.e. God, then you have chances of getting into Heaven. Otherwise... nope.
  4. League's Avatar
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    If you give the Bible any credence (enough to believe in God, Heaven, and Hell at any rate), I would assume that you don't think that God is dumb. I would also think that Hell would be at least viewed as the natural ending point for a wicked human being (if not all human beings, if one assumes all human beings to be naturally wicked to some/great degree) in the thereafter if God is at all wrathful/judgemental, and not something that is almost certain to be avoided assuming one dodges one sin--so I'm pretty sure that you have a faulty interpretation (i.e., deviating from the common interpretation) of whatever you're thinking of. I'm pretty sure that, in simple terms, without exploring the meaning of anything, that "denying the Holy Spirit" amounts to either a) a "super" sin, b) all sin or the culmination thereof, or c) an irreparable [moral] state of blasphemy due to sin [wherein "righteousness" is "despised," the Holy spirit being holy and all, etc.--roughly similar to a, but a state and not an action].

    Who, exactly, teaches that there is only one way to get into Hell? Isn't Heaven conditioned (per every pastory, missionary, and preacher), and not Hell?
  5. DarkDreams's Avatar
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    There is the FATHER, The Holy Spirit and jesus Christ. They are all 'God' yet we refer to the Father as the main (?) god. Perhaps my wording is off, but The Holy Spirit =/= Father. The only way of getting into "hell" is to refuse to believe that The Holy Spirit exists. And that's how I view it. Personally, if there is a greater being, it would be aliens.

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