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by , 14th April 2010 at 11:35 AM (512 Views)
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I've noticed a couple Arceus discussions have emerged lately, and a couple things have been bugging me. I felt like making a forum about it, but I figured it'd be a bit more appropriate as a blog.
Anyway, here are my views on the whole Arceus debate.

Arceus is the creator of the universe:
No. Though this is possible, the canon specifically says, and I quote the HG/SS pokédex word for word,

"According to the legends of Sinnoh, this Pokémon emerged from an egg and shaped all there is in this world."

And as we all have learned from mythology, the greek and roman gods are all very much real, because of course.. they're legends. Legends are real! And since we know that those legends of Zeus and Poseidon are all very much real, it must also be true that the legends in Sinnoh (emphasis on how it states the legends of Sinnoh) are true! Right? Therefore, Arceus must have created all there is in the world.

Nothing can top Arceus:
Though I'll agree, I don't want anything to top Arceus in terms of base stat total, that doesn't mean something has to top it. They went two entire generations without topping Mewtwo. I saw mentioned that maybe they could have a counterpart to Arceus, perhaps an opposite. That could be interesting. Considering Arceus' multitype ability, I'm not sure how that could be done, but it certainly could be interesting (perhaps the first ???-type Pokémon?). Being believed by (potentially ancient) Sinnoh myth to be the creator of the Pokémon world, perhaps the new region in Black and White could have their own god mythology, with an equal base stat total of 720. Though personally I'm hoping they won't do that, at least for a while, and keep the toughest legendary at 680, assuming the mechanics aren't significantly changed (which I doubt).

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  1. Ekard's Avatar
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    I'm not sure that the Legend actually implies that Arceus created the Universe. I believe it was more of, it created the means for the Universe to Exist.

    Another thing I would like to point out. It was fact, not legend, that the world was Flat. It was fact, that the sun revolved around the earth.
    Facts change, legends change. Get over it... to put it simply. ^^

    It is possible that Arceus did create the Universe in it's entirety, and arguments assuming such are... assuming such. If you want to argue if it is true, that's a different topic. But if the base already is going under the assumption that Arceus is the Creator, then there is no reason to question that if it's not the point of the argument. In other-words, it would be picking at things that are irrelevant to the actual topic.
  2. The Outrage's Avatar
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    We've all seen that Game Freak is taking the "all myths are true" approach to their box legends, or else the game's main plot wouldn't exist in the first place.

    Also why are you quoting HgSs' entry while completely ignoring DP's?

    Diamond: It is described in mythology as the Pokémon that shaped the universe with its 1,000 arms.

    Pearl: It is told in mythology that this Pokémon was born before the universe even existed.
  3. Blackjack Gabbiani's Avatar
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    Even if Arceus created the universe/world/Sinnoh/pies, it's still never stated to have any further dominion over them.
  4. derian's Avatar
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    I didn't mean to ignore DP's, DP's is just more specific to DP. HG/SS proves that it's just Sinnoh's legends, and not necessarily the legend of any other region. After all, DP also says it's only mythology.

    EDIT: What I mean is, everyone was citing DP's entry as evidence that Arceus really did create everything, ignoring how HG/SS states that it's just Sinnoh legend.

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