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Why debate over whether or not R/S will be remade is inherently silly.

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by , 14th October 2011 at 12:07 PM (489 Views)
It's a very simple equation, really.

Nintendo produces video games. If those video games make money, Nintendo produces more of those video games. Pokemon makes a shit-ton of money. Nintendo likes this. Nintendo likes this a lot.

So as long as Pokemon makes money, the older games will be remade once they can be called "older games". Mark my words, if Pokemon is still making a ton of money a decade or so from now we'll be hearing about Pokemon ArrestedBecauseHeWasBlack and Pokemon MakesMoreMoneyBecauseHeIsWhite.

It's just logic.

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  1. Mako's Avatar
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    @BlazakingEX - This is what I was saying over Skype the other night. The only difference is that Jacob is articulate and I can't speak a lick of my native language.
  2. Trainer-c's Avatar
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    Five Star Post. My hats off to you.
  3. H-con's Avatar
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    You're right, of course, but I certainly would get tired if I saw old stuff coming up all the time.

    Though coming from a pokémon fan, I guess that makes no sense.

    The video game industry don't benefit from burying their face in the past.
  4. Silktree's Avatar
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    The equation is hardly that simple. Assume (based on recent generations) that the main versions always sell 18 million copies, the third version 7 million, and the remakes 11 million. Assume also that a generation with remakes is four years long and a generation without ones is three years long.

    If remakes were released in every generation, by 2019 the main versions of Generation VII would have been released, and the accumulated sales since 2010 would be 90 million copies (3*18+2*7+2*11). In the second scenario that excludes remakes, by the end of same year the main versions of Generation VIII would have been released, and the total profit would be 93 million copies (4*18+3*7).

    The above calculation does not even take into account that without remakes, the third versions would have more exclusive content and would therefore be more profitable than they would be with remakes released around the same time.
  5. Nelly's Avatar
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    @Silktree You also have to take into account that the remakes partly exist to lure old, nostalgic fans back into the series and into buying the new games. Not to mention, third versions didn't sell exponentially more back when there were no remakes. They sold just about the same.
  6. Laterose's Avatar
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    LOLOL

    Thank you.
  7. Bishie Karis-chan's Avatar
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    Or they could just make all of the older Pokémon available post-game in the future generations, thus preventing the need for remakes entirely.

    *expecting to be laughed at and not taken seriously*
  8. Arc Blader's Avatar
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    Yeah, pretty much.
  9. The Outrage's Avatar
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    I don't care whether its remade or not, I'm still voicing my opinion on why I don't like the idea of remakes anymore.
  10. Silktree's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by YeOldeJacob
    @Silktree You also have to take into account that the remakes partly exist to lure old, nostalgic fans back into the series and into buying the new games.
    But there are many other ways to lure those fans back into the series. The first thing that comes to mind is including an old region in a new game, as was done for Kanto in Generation II.

    I also think you're overestimating the impact FRLG and HGSS had on the success of the games that followed them. The main versions of the recent generations have sold a significantly lower number of copies compared to Gold and Silver, let alone Red and Green. Not even that, but the fact that Black and White's sales are just about where Diamond and Pearl's were at this point in their lifetime, suggests that HGSS didn't change much. If the veteran players are dissatisfied with the current direction of the series, remakes are unlikely to bring them back for very long.

    Not to mention, third versions didn't sell exponentially more back when there were no remakes. They sold just about the same.
    Yellow sold twice as many copies. Granted, there was a fad then, but Crystal would have also been more successful had the Mobile Adapter been carried over to the non-Japanese versions and even more so if Game Freak had released it in 2001 rather than in 2000. But I digress: Emerald and Platinum would definitely have been more successful if they had introduced the features added in FRLG and HGSS.

    Really, the situation is not as simple as you're making it out to be.
    Updated 14th October 2011 at 02:11 PM by Silktree
  11. GatoRage's Avatar
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    If the remakes are made, it means that I will get to play a fun Pokemon game.
    I want the remakes because I like Pokemon games.
  12. Nelly's Avatar
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    @Silktree You most certainly get more of the fans who have drifted away from the series by remaking their old favorites for a new system. It creates the illusion that Nintendo cares deeply about their past and the consumers' past as well (and not just their money). You are inevitably going to sell more games when you market to two audiences like that because there is going to be a lot of crossover. The model has obviously worked, because they have remade two sets of games and are inevitably going to remake a third. And a fourth. And a fifth. And so on.

    When you are working with a franchise like Pokemon (Which is either #2 or #3 in Nintendo's overall sales, I forget. I want to say #2.), you are going to see them producing as much as possible with the Pokemon name attached. They aren't going to hold off on all their new features and pump them into one game. They are going to gradually implement a feature or two over the span of 3-5 years. And remakes work as a great money-making bridge.
  13. Silktree's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by YeOldeJacob
    You most certainly get more of the fans who have drifted away from the series by remaking their old favorites for a new system. It creates the illusion that Nintendo cares deeply about their past and the consumers' past as well (and not just their money). You are inevitably going to sell more games when you market to two audiences like that because there is going to be a lot of crossover. The model has obviously worked, because they have remade two sets of games and are inevitably going to remake a third. And a fourth. And a fifth. And so on.
    If the model has worked, why don't the sales of the main versions show for it? If you're implying that Black and White's profit would have decreased if the Generation II fans hadn't regained their interest, you're basically saying that the number of new players has dwindled over the years, or else Black and White would have higher sales than Diamond and Pearl did.

    They aren't going to hold off on all their new features and pump them into one game. They are going to gradually implement a feature or two over the span of 3-5 years. And remakes work as a great money-making bridge.
    They can gradually add new features via new generations and the third versions alone. Such a scheme wouldn't be "pumping all features into one game", and would actually result in more profit.
  14. Nelly's Avatar
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    @Silktree Well you obviously see something that Nintendo's entire marketing/sales dept. has missed. Have you checked to see if there are any openings?
  15. Silktree's Avatar
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    They haven't missed anything. They thought that HGSS might contribute to a rise in Black and White's sales, that failed to happen, and now some lesson will be learned from that. I don't see them recycling old content forever and ever just because it works, when there is clearly a viable and more profitable alternative that happens to promote quality at the same time.

    And I've got better things I want to do, thank you very much. What an intelligent retort.
  16. DCM's Avatar
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    People who deny that remakes are going to happen clearly just like to be spiteful. Remakes are a standard in the series. It's just a matter of time.
    Keldora Dragon likes this.

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