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Wow, Dawn's return in BW2 feels really pointless

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I guess people weren't kidding when they said the only reason Dawn is staying for multiple episodes is just because of Piplup.

So they hype up Dawn on the BW2 poster, yet she's been rather low-key upon her return. While she is staying for multiple episodes, she's pretty much not the "star" of any of these eps besides the first one she came back for. While the Iris/Dawn interaction in the Onix episode was nice, the rest of the eps just have her playing second fiddle to Cilan or Iris.

In the tournament she loses in the second episode, and her only win is a 5 second battle against a COTD. Its almost as if including Dawn in the Junior tournament in the first place seems kinda pointless.

If she just leaves after the Junior tournament, what about her return felt significant or important? It feels like she came back for fillers and to have an early loss in a pointless tournament. We don't get any updates on her Contest journey, her rivals aren't mentioned at all, she gets no new pokemon or evolutions...she even has the same exact clothes.

If I were a major Dawn fan I'd almost prefer her not to come back at all if she was just going to be swept under a rug like this. I guess its true what they say, after the writers are done promoting you in one series you get thrown out along with the rest of the older characters and swept under a rug for the current main cast.

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  1. Chiplet's Avatar
    what did you honeslty expect? It's YAWN we're talking about

    I agree, her cameo is awfully boring and just pointless, it feels like she serves absolutely no purpose. But, as lots of people already have stated, she's here because of Piplup.

    I did like her interactions with Iris, and even though it weren't much her interactions with Cilan was kinda entertaining too, and I was starting to get my hopes up for her after the Onix episode. Sadly, she really didn't at all live up to my expectations, even though they were awfully low.

    That girl needs to go, seriously. Most boring character ever...

    I guess that it's not over yet though. If she stays with the main cast for a bit longer after the WC there's still a chance for her to do something that might just justify her presence in BW2, and she might just do something noticeable. I'm saving my judgment until she's actually gone, but as of yet, it's awful.
  2. The Fighting Misty's Avatar
    I think she might stay for however long Meoletta is still in the group for, so maybe a few more eps after the tournament.
  3. Chiplet's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Gliscor'd
    I think she might stay for however long Meoletta is still in the group for, so maybe a few more eps after the tournament.
    I'd be alright with that. Having her stay for the Meloetta/TR arc would be logical, but please not longer than that. That'd make absolutely no sense, as she really isn't learning anything new for her Contests here in Unova, not to mention all the time she's losing too.
    Updated 2nd August 2012 at 02:17 PM by Chiplet
  4. HumanDawn's Avatar
    I can't believe I'm going to do this.... but.... I'm gonna defend Dawn for once. Her plot and character development was so horrible in DP with that blue demon's plots being what looked like to be written by a 5 year old... (then most of DP's plots looked like that)

    Uhh yeah, most forced return ever. Dawn's writing's so lazy, it doesn't come off as a surprise to me. Just look at the DP 'Special'(lolno), it's just 4 episodes mixed into one. Her return, while nearly pointless because she could've done the same thing in any other contest in Hoenn(she's an idiot, no surprise), has some meaning.....

    Take the amazing Caitlin and Cynthia battle(BF battle standards baby) for example. Dawn learned that when you mix meteors with electricity, multi coloured fireworks happen. For some unexplained reason..... OK. I got nothing. Dawn's back for fanservice purposes only(that gravity defying SKIRT) and because of Piplup. OK. And some hot and saucy girl bonding with Iris(how come Iris makes me like a little characters I thought I'd never like?). That's all I can think of.
  5. CrackFox's Avatar
    I'm enjoying Dawn's return. She has good interactions with Iris and the group and BW is giving her the opportunity to show off the funnier, more immature side of her character. I like her so much more than DP. Her fun personality is coming out more, especially with Iris. And yeah, she's playing second fiddle, but she's just a guest this saga, what do you expect? I can't comment about the JC since I haven't read up about it yet, but thanks for the spoilers! Maybe you should warn people about those :p
  6. The Fighting Misty's Avatar
    Outside of Dawn having better chemistry with Iris/Cilan than Brock, Dawn herself was obviously handled better in DP due to being the actual focus of that saga. It almost feels as if she's back for no development this time around...which is likely also why she didn't get any new captures or evolutions.
  7. CrackFox's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Gliscor'd
    Outside of Dawn having better chemistry with Iris/Cilan than Brock, Dawn herself was obviously handled better in DP due to being the actual focus of that saga. It almost feels as if she's back for no development this time around...which is likely also why she didn't get any new captures or evolutions.
    The obligatory cameo that all previous females get? I know she had specials but Misty had specials in Chronicles and still appeared in AG. Maybe they just wanted to give the ratings a bit of a boost. We still don't know when she's leaving. She'll probably capture a BW Pokemon or one of her Pokemon will evolve at the last minute. It would have been nice to see her with a new outfit, but oh well. I'm sure they'll give her something before she leaves.
  8. HumanDawn's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Gliscor'd
    Outside of Dawn having better chemistry with Iris/Cilan than Brock, Dawn herself was obviously handled better in DP due to being the actual focus of that saga. It almost feels as if she's back for no development this time around...which is likely also why she didn't get any new captures or evolutions.
    Thank ARCEUS THAT IT'S NOT HAPPENING.

    The Dawn 'development' made me sick. I'm so glad she isn't getting any this saga.
  9. The Fighting Misty's Avatar
    The problem with Dawn and Iris is they're both polar opposites that were handled too differently:

    - Dawn suffered heavy losses before she got better in Contests. She also had mostly all small and cute Pokemon other than Mamoswine.

    - Iris is pretty much strong from the start, due to having a powerful Excadrill and now she's given an overpowered Dragonite. While Axew improves and Emonga doesn't matter. Iris hasn't gone through much growth because there's nothing much to develop her into.

    So in other words, they're both extremes that are handled too differently from each other.
  10. pokemon fan 132's Avatar
    To be fair she has been in only 3 episodes so far and judging by look of things she will stay for at least 10 episodes(possibly more than that).

    Since Dawn is going to return for extended stay to improve skills as coordinator, developing new battling style anyway its obvious how Junior Cup was rather just foreplay for character with writers taking their time with Dawn further growth, since she will be in cast for longer period anyway. She might play big role regarding Meloetta.

    That's why she isn't center of attention constantly like Misty and May were, because writers are trying to keep her for as long as possible doing gradual progress with story, while not hurting development of other characters.

    Either way her fans should be happy. Dawn is receiving a hell of a lot better treatment than Misty, Max or May are getting which is being ignored like they never existed never to be seen again. Anything is better than nothing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chiplet
    I'd be alright with that. Having her stay for the Meloetta/TR arc would be logical, but please not longer than that. That'd make absolutely no sense, as she really isn't learning anything new for her Contests here in Unova, not to mention all the time she's losing too.
    Personally i would rather have Misty back in BW2 than Dawn, or May with there existing characters which are in more need for development and focus. But eh, its not like we can choose.
  11. The Fighting Misty's Avatar
    She's been in 5 episodes so far. The 4 episodes prior to the tournament and now the first tournament episode.
  12. Caseydia's Avatar
    No return has ever really been useless. Dawn has already taking over the DP saga basically, so for her to do it in BW wouldn't have been fair. It's all about rushness and bad writing. I'm sure Dawn would have swept the whole Junior Cup if Iris didn't get as far as she did. But Trip and Ash needed that battle more than they did. Sorry Glisor'd but somethings have to give.
    But all in all Piplup did a pretty good job.

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