I, for one, cannot decide if I think it's more shallow to judge pokémon based on their designs or based on their usefulness in battle.
There are some awesome (looking) pokémon that I wish could be even remotely competitive (Beedrill).
There are some pokémon that are handy in battle that I wish looked as useful as they are (Klefki).
I'm not sure which is worse.
Getting Aggron to Y is 10000000000% easier than getting Aggronite to X. I finally got Aggronite but it was a ***** to get.
There were some Pokémon whose designs I disliked at first, but they started to grow on me over time, and I started to like them. Volcarona, Druddigon, and (to a lesser extent) Mismagius are examples.
Well, the first thing you see it's the 'mon design, not stats and etc.. But some people stays with the design.
Won't lie, there are 'mons I don't like because of the design (And I'm sure I'm not the only one), but bashing is totally diferent, in fact, looks aren't anything in competitive world.. I laugh at the people who complained about honedge and its evolutionary line and now it's their must-use. I wonder why people do that..
Aggron is Y exclusive :P
I do not bash Pokemon. I mean, there are some Pokes whose designs I dislike, but I don't bash them for it.
Sometimes people don't like how a Pokemon looks. Ridiculous, I know.
I'm gonna be honest, i thought Klefki was pretty stupid when i first saw it but then i did some research to see if they just decided just to put some eyeballs on a keyring but then i saw that it was pretty creative. For me when a new gen comes out i just look at the pokemon that look awesome to me (like a freaking Dragon T-Rex in this gen) and i don't mind the rest but i don't think they're crap.
I, for one, do not part take in the bashing of Pokemon designs.
I am half and half on it.
I judge a Pokemon on design, concept, type and move pull. Though when I judge on type and move pull I judge on how fun it is not how strong it is.
I think both are awful.
I haven't used delphox yet but I hate being slow and I hate being one shoted. So Emboar you disapoint me
I like Delphox because I don't need to teach it Thief to get heart scales :3
i think it's difficult to compare the two. it's quite evident that emboar has far superior coverage, but i'm not sure exactly what you're thinking when you say it can combat the things it's weak to. in principle, yes; it gets wild charge, head charge, and a fairly wide array of other moves to choose from, including scald (!) that are super-effective against the types it's weak to, but i think in practice you're going to be a lot more hard-pressed to hit those types than you would think. emboar has fairly low speed (65) and most of the things that are going to be on the opponent's team to deal with it are either going to be capable of taking its hits or of outspeeding and killing it in one hit. i think what delphox lacks in coverage, it compensates for with raw speed. 104 base speed allows it to outpace everything below garchomp (whom it is capable of ohkoing with hp ice even with the hidden power nerf).
also, don't forget that most dark-types won't appreciate taking a neutral fire hit from 114 base satk. although grass/fire/psychic coverage is by no means good (you're combining two of the worst offensive types in the game with a decent stab which doesn't complement them very well), it doesn't net horrible coverage: unfortunately delphox is hindered by the lack of a very strong psychic stab [future sight doesn't count], but fire/grass/psychic is only resisted by eleven pokemon and only four, maybe five, of those will be common in ou (victini, hydreigon, latios, latias, heatran). oh and i guess maybe delphox walls itself lol. don't forget that delphox has a few tricks up its sleeve (literally) to use: hypnosis has questionable reliability but incapacitates a pokemon for several turns, and scarf switcheroo can ruin cm lati@s' day and messes with things like heatran, chansey, etc.
i think the extra speed distinguishes delphox from emboar whom, i would agree, unquestionably perform the fox's role better if it were not for the 40 speed delphox has on it. delphox imo does special better than emboar, but obviously emboar has a physical presence and so i think that is where its niche lies. delphox is the better cleaner but emboar is the better breaker. ultimately, i think they're too difficult to confidently compare since they both have fairly specialized and discrete roles from one another.
Originally Posted by Charles Dunois Of course, that's to be expected of a Psychic-type. Most Psychic-types can learn Focus Blast or Signal Beam, Delphox can't learn any Bug or Fairy type moves and the only Fighting type move that Delphox can learn is Power up Punch with isn't a good option for a Pokemon who exceeds at special attacking.
Originally Posted by Contrary Also Emboar is cuter. I know right? Just look at his face in this picture, i wanna pinch his cheeks =^.^=
Originally Posted by 8ther I'm referring to Dark types, Delphox pretty much useless to any Dark-type that isn't weak to Fire or Grass.
@FairyGaga; @Charles Dunois; Of course, that's to be expected of a Psychic-type.
Also Emboar is cuter.
I'm referring to Dark types, Delphox pretty much useless to any Dark-type that isn't weak to Fire or Grass.
@FairyGaga; @Charles Dunois;
How so? Delphox has access to Solarbeam and Grass Knot, as well as a ton of Psychic-type moves that most Water-types don't resist.