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  1. HumanDawn's Avatar
    Congratulations! I just finished getting all the obtainable Pokemon in the game(595) this weekend! Don't forget to get your Oval Charm from Sycamore!
  2. Kutomba's Avatar
    Nice pictures! I really like this feature, but I wish you could take pictures anywhere too.
  3. Winterdaze's Avatar
    Those are some nice pictures. I love turning the camera to the night sky and taking photos of the stars outside of Frost Cavern, it's utterly beautiful, especially on a day with diamond dust.

    It's too bad you can't take photos of Pokemon, but then there's always the PR videos...

  4. Moe's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Gotpika
    I personally haven't seen the Kyurem movie in full yet, though it seemed pretty generic on the surface with a few differences, namely having a Pokemon villain and the main protagonist being the one to incite strife.
    I think the movie manages to make Kyurem to not really be a villain in the usual sense - they are fighting more as a test of strength rather than because of something.

    It's odd to think not having much of a reason behind everything is a good thing, but it's a nice break from saving the universe as a plotline for the movies. They've managed to show five legendary Pokemon in a movie without it just ending up as a blur of battles and Ash running up stairs, which is a plus.
  5. Sweet Veil's Avatar
    I personally haven't seen the Kyurem movie in full yet, though it seemed pretty generic on the surface with a few differences, namely having a Pokemon villain and the main protagonist being the one to incite strife.
  6. The Power of Pika's Avatar
    I took a closer look at Big W's website and the blu-ray version doesn't come with the poster. so that would explain why you didn't get it.

    The list on the site had 1 blu-ray which comes with the card. 1 standard dvd that comes with a card and another standard DVD which comes with card and poster.

    They must have not got enough posters to put in everything.
  7. Moe's Avatar
    Funny thing was that I got it from Big W - so I'm not sure what happened there. I saw the JB one after I put my pre-order in, but I'd rather the regular style case - just wish they'd put in an insert.
  8. The Power of Pika's Avatar
    So you got the normal case version with the card.

    I got the JBhifi version (exclusive to JBhifi).Llike yours the disc only came with the movie and no extras except it has a nicer cover when you open it.=)
    it also came with a card.

    I didn't get a poster. I'm not too bothered, the DVD case having all the pictures was more than enough for me.=3

    I have a feeling it depends on what store you buy from depends on which version you get. All of them are just the movie though with no extras on the disc.

    The one I posted above was a blu-ray from Jbhifi.

    I have a normal DVD version aswell that came from target with no card and practically similar to yours with nothing special at all.

    (I always buy 1 DVD and 1 blu-ray)

    Now that I think about another store was advertising poster. I'll just check up on which store.

    Big W has the poster one.
  9. Moe's Avatar
    I'm not surprised by it having hacked Pokemon, I just found it interesting.

    I'd like to be able to use the online functions without having to guess whether something is legit or not - I certainly think Pokedex completion is less fun when people are just cloning or generating Pokemon and trading them on.

    Rare and event Pokemon are only valuable when they are difficult to obtain, years of being able to clone and generate previously rare Pokemon ruins it in my view.

    It might be a relatively minor problem, but this is more or less the last chance to fix it. If there's other ways of achieving the same sort of goal without totally blocking backwards compatibility, great.

    If there is a check thing in place for official competitions (I don't know) - I really wish they would have implemented that as a filter on the GTS/Negotiations in BW2. I would hope that the reason they didn't was that it isn't that simple, rather than simply just ignoring it.

    Basically, if it is an easy fix, I'm annoyed that they didn't go to any effort to resolve some of the obvious problems in BW2. If it isn't an easy fix, I think dropping some or all backwards compatibility would be preferable (to me at least) then continuing to have exploits of Gen 3/4 impacting the newer games.
  10. H-con's Avatar
    Cutting backwards compability would lead to the single highest outcry of players ever. This isn't like the case in gen II/III, where game mechanics needed to get fixed, but todays IV-system works fine. Moreover, the cut between gen II and III aren't so big compared to now. Back then, there wasn't all that much, but now people have tons of (otherwise legit) events, legendaries, shinies and generally pokémon they like. Some pokémon that have traveled around all the regions suddenly can't be transferred further on. How does that sound?

    In addition, with things like Pokégen and the like, it's not like it would matter. People can and will exploit the system, cutting off compability would only hurt those that don't play with hacks, because honestly, why bother transferring a hack when you can just make a new one. Besides, as far as I know, they have things such as legality checks in official competitions, don't they? I fail to even see the problem, it doesn't affect your cart.

    Of course, removing compability would be a complete asshole move towards pokédex completion, it would take ages to fill up the dex, and you might not even manage it with the first game, because hell if they're going to have more than 750 pokémon available in one game, and that's accounting for legendaries and the like. With backwards compability, all you need is basically the generation event pokémon and version exclusives, compared to hundreds that wasn't added to the game. It would destroy large parts of the Wi-Fi metagame for a very sizable length of time, as fewer pokémon are available and all those pokémon you bred and EV'd aren't even accessible (what an absolute dick move), even though you got them perfectly legit. It would shut down move availability for a quite a sizable amount of pokémon and very likely DW ability accessibility. Knowing Gamefreak, they aren't going to pop in tutors in the first game, so goodbye to all those moves. Good bye items too (then again, BW already did that, bullshit move that should be unnecessary now due to the unlimited TMs).

    That, and you're grossly exaggerating the amount of hacking. To be honest though, the fact that you're surprised over possibly hacked pokémon in a second hand cart says a lot, never thought of what kinds of people who sell these games? I've seen plenty of other examples.

    In short, what you're saying is that people who play the game perfectly by the books, who don't hack or anything like that, gets fucked royally over with all their collected pokémon because of some irrational fear of "hacks". It would screw over pokédex completion, online battling and generally just the concept of having rare pokémon. Do you by any chance hate having fun? Or are you just paranoid?
  11. Moe's Avatar
    The idea is that once you stop hacks from coming through from previous generations, then you can make sure with game patches that new hacks aren't possible.

    The 3DS allows for downloadable software updates, which could be required for online functionality - if a hack gets made, the game could then be updated to block the exploit involved, and ban from online play Pokemon made using it.

    Obviously people could probably do modified ROMs and the like and set up side servers or something to keep playing with hacks, but that would hopefully be totally outside the main game - so that a few people's choice to hack Pokemon doesn't impact on the gameplay of others.
  12. Lord Clowncrete's Avatar
    But what prevents a person from creating hacks in gen 6 instead of "transferring" them unless I am missing something? I mean if I have a wondertomb in gen 5 then what prevents me from creating another in gen 6 if I can't transfer it?

    Frankly, I see nothing wrong in people hacking as long as: 1) they don't trade away these mons under the guise of legit mons. 2) They don't battle using hacks without warning the opponent about it.
  13. Moe's Avatar
    My point is that it's indicative of a wider problem - hacking of Pokemon is so commonplace that a random copy of the game is full of them, something that can't be fixed as a broader problem without scrapping the backward compatibility. When the games are as connected online as they are now - they are near unavoidable.

    At the absolute least a transfer system to the 3DS games should do checks on things like movesets, ability, locations/ball for capture, etc. to try and filter out some of the problem.
  14. H-con's Avatar
    You cannot possibly be serious.

    You know, you can just overwrite the saved game and start over?
  15. Lord Clowncrete's Avatar
    No way. I dont want backwards compatibility removed just due to hacked mons. If somebody wants to hack, it is his choice and GF shouldn't do anything about it. Why should GF deprive everyone if somebody hacks?
  16. Moe's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Silktree
    Hacked Pokémon are not a valid reason to remove backwards compatibility.
    What other way is there? The bugs and glitches of a 9 year old game shouldn't still be impacting on new titles. I really did like being able to complete the Pokedex on White using a lot of Pokemon transferred from Sapphire, Platinum and SoulSilver, but the state of the GTS alone is enough for me to want to give that up in favour of a clean slate.

    Maybe they could allow backwards compatibility for local Pokemon - but block them in the online functions - but otherwise, the 3DS is about the last chance Nintendo have for a clean break and to fix all these old problems.
  17. Silktree's Avatar
    Hacked Pokémon are not a valid reason to remove backwards compatibility.
  18. Lord Clowncrete's Avatar
    I loved the game too. My only gripe was how mons can learn only one move. That means that a ground type is going to be walled by a flying type for eternity.
  19. The Outrage's Avatar
    Let's put this into perspective: The main story is nothing but an over-glorified tutorial.
  20. Moe's Avatar
    Yeah, there's no way I believe the 75% hit rate on Dragon Rage that it tells me considering how many times it missed in crucial moments. If it were 100% accuracy I'd probably have thrown my DS out the window.
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