Ah, I've heard of them! Quite a good song, being a musician myself and analysing it.
Two of them - the lead singer (the one who didn't have a mask during that scene) and the drummer (the one who doesn't have a beard)
That was good. It's not my style but still, they're good. So which one's your brother?
Wow, there not bad.
They now have another follower.
HAPPY BRONZE BULBAVERSARY, BOSS!
Ten years? Has it really been ten years? Face it, Damian. We're getting old. Either that or time is slipping away. I should probably re-introduce myself before I go any further. I was a mod here many years ago. I was Ledian_X, former Misc. mod and comic book know-it-all I admit, it wasn't the best screen name I could have picked. I think I chose it on the fly since I was already called that at Pokemasters and on Serebii. I, too, remember the drama and such. It was why I left the pokemon fansite community. I still watched from the sidelines as this site and Serebii grew and changed.
I've seen this site actually grow from the days when Chris was the owner. Now? Now you have a wikipedia to call your own. You've come a long way, I think.
As for you, Damian, don't think I haven't forgotten the times you went to bat for me when there was drama here. I still respect you for that, man. You're a good guy and it's good to see that that aspect hasn't changed much. I do wish I could have talked to you more. But, I've always been busy with a comic, a video or just talking on Skype with the new friends I made over at tgwtg. Despite making new friends there, I haven't forgotten you or any of the others I made on this weird journey through cyberspace.
You always managed to do a great job adminning and being a frieind. Congrats on ten years here. As for me? Well, I changed my name here. I might stop by from time to time.
P.S. Yes,, I am late in replying to this. I haven't been here in ages. =)
You know that's a good point. When Pokemon first started none of us expected it to go on for 15+ years either. The fansites at the time didn't know they would have to be working with a continuous active franchise for the next decade and a half.
I remember back in the early days many people thought the anime would end after the Johto arc, or that the games would stop introducing new pokemon after the initial fad died.
You guys have to remember how different the Pokemon franchise, and how fans views of it, actually was back in 1999-2001. If you traveled back in time and told people from back then that the anime would still be going on with Ash as the main character for nearly 750 episodes and 15 years later, nobody would have ever believed you. Nobody would have ever believed back in 2001 that we'd have nearly 650 pokemon.
As someone who lived through each gen of Pokemon as it actually happened, its really interesting to see how much of the fandom has changed. Some people grew out of pokemon while younger fans came into it. Almost all the original kids and early teens are now people in their mid/late 20's who are starting their own families. It says a lot.
Someone else, among others, who was around on the internet during the years of the fad's death...
That uncertain, insecure atmosphere of the franchise's future... the self-consciousness (or personal release) displayed amongst forumgoers... premature inventitiveness in fanfic and comic forums, diving into dark themes from kiddiness and Pikachu backlash...
It reassures me whenever I see those people are still around, and that these things aren't forgotten...
It started with Joe feeling betrayed that his top lieutenant deserted to found a rival site and/or him believing that we were responsible for his site going down around early 2003. It didn't improve afterward with both side routinely finding ways to be the ones to blame.
Scott- sadly I don't. HavenT' heard from him in years.
Originally Posted by Santabomb I never understood all the drama with Serebii. It probably has something to do with me being a new member of the online Poke community and being ignorant of drama.
Happy aluminum anniversary! There's a long history there that doesn't really need to be gone into here.
I'm surprised a certain member hasn't brought up Misty yet, given how one of the last blogs went.
Yeah, this place is fun no doubt. I enjoy most of the forum a lot and it's definitely a get away in the Internet world, in fact without Bulbagarden my internet life would be pretty bland. Writer's Workshop, Anime Forum Pre-late BW, Manga Forum, Video Games section, even the Christmas parts are really fun. Originally Posted by Aquanova Happy 10th year Bulbaversary. You guys seriously make me jelly, I wish I discovered this place sooner, though I might have been more immature and annoying so maybe that's a good thing I didnt haha :P Imo, you're probably one of the more nicer and reasonable members of the site. :P
Just curious, do you know whatever happened to Murgatoyd? I remember he used to give us all the biggest news about the anime in Japan at the time. I remember he was the, "Dogasu" so to speak, of the older fandom back in 2002-2004.
I never understood all the drama with Serebii. It probably has something to do with me being a new member of the online Poke community and being ignorant of drama.
Happy aluminum anniversary!
This was an interesting and thoughtful post. Congratulations on your ten-year success.
I thought he was a childish little troll.
Best part of the Blog.
Happy 10th year Bulbaversary. You guys seriously make me jelly, I wish I discovered this place sooner, though I might have been more immature and annoying so maybe that's a good thing I didnt haha :P
I never really hate Iris for any of the reason in the topic. There is actually several things I liked about her. I'll even make a list.
-She carries a dragon in her hair for crying out loud! That's the best thing ever!
-Finally there is a girl on this show that is darked skinned and not some boy with his eyes closed.
-Dragon master goal. Speaks for itself.
-She's not a coordinator.
-She's waering decent clothes. Pants for a change.
-I like her voice.
-Her being in the Don battles and such made her more active if they weren't there to compete in.
Now there are a few things that needs work. For example, you can tell that the whole anime is rushed. And all of this talk about training off screen doesn't sit for me. Alot of people including me has gotten angry whenever Ash trains or does anything off screen so why can't Iris or Cilan be in that some boat? They only have a few Pokemon anyways. It's not like they have a bunch to take care of. If that was the case, then sure.
Now this thing with Pikachu. Type disadvantages has been Ash's battle strategy focal point for years now. Now suddenly it matters in BW? That sounds odd. Yet somehow Dragonite and Serperior get passes for beating their type disadvantage opponents. There could have been a way for Pikachu to beat that mole. Whether if Pikachu would have learned a (fighting type) move or something, or would have figure out a way. I mean this is a Pikachu who took a Latios down for Christ's sake! Since we have pokemon learning stuff off screen I don't see why some can't learn it on screen like in a battle like that.
Now let me make a disapproved list for Iris now.
-I was hoping that a disobedient Zweilous or Druddigon would have been a better choice for her. I mean would it have killed them to do that?
-What was wrong with a Dratini or Dragonair for the Junior Cup? Why such a Pokemon at that time? Something smaller would have proabably done okay.
-Her Pokemon seemed forgotten lately. Training off screen is nice but when you haven't see one like Emonga seen battling, it gets fustrating. Then there is Axew. It's cute yes, but that doesn't mean it can't be powerful in more battles. Look at Pikachu and Piplup. They have been shown to be very active and they haven't evolved yet. So what's Axew's deal?
-Attitude is also a big issue. Since we know Ash is in another region he knows little about, and he has been through alot before. I think it would have just better for me if they would have dropped the "such a kid" pun. It was okay at first but later on it was not necessary. I wish the writers wouldn't make gymleader/gymleader game-like girls like that.
-Her hair is crazy. Yes, I know the others have strange hair too but is the buns are unnecessary? She's got pretty eyes and long hair, why not move them out the way and do justice for the girl?
-This saga being rushed doesn't mean that things couldn't have been done better of Iris. Unless she will be champion once this saga is over, I don't think they need to throw everything and have her win so much at once. There is still so much she needs to learn.
After all of this, I don't and never did hated her but I wish more was done for her own good.
I'll be perfectly honest here. I am not upset at the quality of Iris' character because they aren't using a ton of episodes to focus on her. I wasn't really expecting her to get nearly as much attention as Dawn did because she doesn't have an active sidequest like Contests or Gyms. I thought that she would get a bit more focus than she has, but not a huge amount more. Still, the amount of screentime she gets for a sidekick character is fine for the most part. However, I truly don't think that she works for her accomplishments. Her conflicts thus far have been solved for her with little to no effort on her part. Axew learned to control Dragon Rage on its own, as I don't think that those practice matches really did much to help it out in that department, Excadrill listened to her again with one apology, despite all of the years of not listening to her and how Cilan had to point out the problem for her. and Emolga's attitude was resolved off-screen just so that she could advance through the first Club Battle tournament. It also annoys me that the series establishes all of these flaws for Iris right from the start and no one, aside from Georgia, calls her out on those flaws.
It feels like instead of allowing Iris to grow as a result of her journey, her team gets power ups just to avoid working more on her character. The fact that she gets a Dragonite prior to the Junior Cup makes that pretty clear to me. I realize that it hasn't happened yet and there could be a valid reason for her to capture it, even though it feels like a stretch to me at the moment, but it seems rather cheap to hand her such a strong Pokemon when Axew is still pretty underdeveloped. I don't really see a reason to root for her when she pretty much everything she already needs to reach her goal. She already has the knowledge of Dragon Pokemon and the battle skills, despite how they weren't present at the start of the series. All she needs is to evolve Axew and it's rarely battles. She could have trained off-screen with Axew, but I find that rather hard to believe considering how its battles have gone and she certainly didn't work for Axew to learn Outrage or Giga Impact.
Personally, I'm more of a fan of a slower-paced series rather than a fast-paced one. I think that faster-paced series tend to miss more opportuntieis with its stories and characters than slower-paced ones. That's not the case all the time, of course, but that's my personal preference. Even so, I understand that they couldn't have Iris train for episodes upon episodes. However, I think that they could more than show her battling Scraggy with Axew every now and then. Even just a few minutes in a few episodes could have worked. Using the tournaments to train could have worked, as I was generally okay that Jessie trained during her Contests in DP, if nearly all of her victories, except for maybe Excadrill vs. Pikachu, weren't cheap and undeserved. Even though I prefer a slower paced story for the most part, I don't think that it was necessary to have one in order to make Iris a better character and have better quality in the writing around her character. I think that even with the faster pace of BW, they could have made Iris a more compelling and interesting character by working on Axew, realizing that she needs to grow and mature along with Axew and actually doing more work on-screen to become a better trainer and a better person. Something like that could match with the faster pace of BW. However, I don't think that there's enough effort behind Iris' character, or enough likability in her personality for me at least, to make her work in either a slower or faster paced series.
To hear people complain, you'd think Axew had beaten Cynthia's Garchomp.