Originally Posted by Grass Type Trainer @Infinity Mk-II Infernape? A flower by any other name would still be one of the most awesome pokémon. (Although I am not sure about a sweet smell, given the flower in question seems to be a rafflesia and "Infernape" is part-poison.)
... Actually, now that I think about it, calling it Infernape might as well be the exception to the saying. It feels like I'm tainting it or insulting it. I'm sorry, Venusaur.
@Infinity Mk-II Infernape?
Okay, I said I'd comment later on the rest, so here. I actually don't have many interesting things to say though. - Lugia
Both it and Ho-oh are in a tie for me, I like them, but not particularly much. Still, I really like how Lugia's story is told in the games. Unlike Ho-oh which is blatantly glorified and you get told everything, Lugia is all about subtlety and making your own connections (and by now you should know that's how I like stories best in games). The implications of it having had a soured relation with the people of Ecruteak 100 years ago and wondering why did it hide itself up in the Whirl Islands is really nice.
Although I like Ho-oh's looks better.
I really really like it... But, what I am disappointed with was how its distribution was in the games. You obtain it at a ridiculously low level at the end of the post-game. What? Dratini could be obtained as early as in Celadon (still at a low level, but halfway what you should have, not a fifth), or by Fuschia. Larvitar should've been found earlier-- Maybe at Victory Road or something. Similarly, unlike Dragonite you wouldn't know of the existence of the thing. Why didn't Karen own a Tyranitar?
But oh well, that's a common problem of the Johto games, not of Tyranitar.
I always preffered Dragonite, but I'll say it was a fantastic foil to it in its generation. Then Metagross showed up as a foil to Tyranitar itself... but even if I preffer those two, Tyranitar is still one of my favorite pokémon, so it's great to see it as a mainstay in the metagame at least.
I didn't pay that much attention to the line, and the one thing to blame here is the version exclusivity: I happened to get every single version they were NOT in. Which is too bad, because I much preffered them over Growlithe (not that I don't like those two, but I liked Vulpix and Ninetales better).
Fortunately, now that droughtales and sun teams are things, I can appreciate Ninetales as I would probably have had I started playing with Blue.
- Blastoise is boss. The end.
Okay, I'll talk about it. My favorite of the Kanto final forms and the pokémon I actually did most of the first run of the game before the save was overwritten. I honestly am not a fan of water types, and in most RPGs I tend to avoid it except for Ice, but it still managed to be a line I really like, that I say gets better with each evolution.
And yes, it totally should've been retyped Steel. Then I'd love it more on the base of being an awesome Steel type.
Well, let's take this into parts.
I really like Chikorita. Almost always is my starter whenever it shows up. Definitely one of my absolute favourite pokémon. Top 5 counting individual stages.
The one I first trained left me with a really good impression, using dual screens and special attacks, and could pull its own weight most of the time. The game was challenging, but Chikorita managed to be one of the aces of the team, interestingly enough a supporting ace.
Also its design. Chikorita is absolutely adorable. To me it is one of the best designed pokémon ever.
Bayleef first impression was that I accidentally had my awesome Chikorita evolve right before the hall of fame, so that wasn't so good. Still, it is a very nice looking second stage, I like how it looks with the dry leaf and spices deal and all, almost as if it were in late summer.
I like how Meganium looks, the sauropod deal is now more aparent, and looks pretty friendly which is how I hoped it would end, but it took an unexpected turn from something that already took a turn. Not that it's bad, but basically what I am saying is that Chikorita > Bayleef > Meganium.
But still, the whole line is really nice and doesn't bring it down from being one of my absolute favorites.
This is all design anyways, I really like how overall is a gentle pokémon that focuses in support, I like when a main character has abilities like shields and healing. And definitely what I see more of Meganium's problem is that Pokémon doesn't have enough healing. I hope one day it does get moves to restore HP to teammates and aromatherapy becomes usable in the map.
Scyther is badass. Scizor is more badass. I like how it's not like it completely outclasses Scyther either while still keeping an edge over it.
That is to say, I like it. Although oddly enough, for being a Bug/Steel you'd think I'd like it much more than I do, huh.
Still, it has really good and well-thought gameplay mechanics behind it, that's definitely what I appreciate the most of it. Much like Tyranitar, I'm happy to see it doing so well in the metagame having a clear spot for itself.
I really liked it, although I WAS confused as to why did Dragonair take such a different direction upon evolution, kind of why does Larvitar make a cocoon, but I was fine with it, it became a golden "europeanish" dragon. It doesn't have the elegance of Dragonair, but it looks regal and majestic nonetheless. I have always liked it even if I didn't understand what the deal was. Then I found out it's origin, so it made sense and liked it even more.
Anyways, the Dratini line in itself is just great, I think it has the best designs, and during Gen I they were my favorite Pokémon. In particular, having seen Charizard and Gyarados disappointed me as I thought there wouldn't be any sort of "mystical" dragon, specially a cute, friendly one. Seeing Dratini proved me wrong and made me really happy, almost always enduring the stupid slots minigame to get the one in Celadon right away.
I might like Salamence in the end over Dragonite, but they are really close and times it hasn't always been like so... and I definitely like Dratini the best.
I'd like to offer some personal experiences on this pokémon, but I've actually never caught Feebas. Ever.
I like it, though less than the rest of pokémon here, but it's still a great pokémon. I like its friendly, peaceful and calm demeanor. It's also defensive, which to me is a good thing. Besides, Milotic offsets Garchomp in Cynthia's team.
It should have Multiscale.
Doberman from hell, that's the best way to explain Houndoom. They are pretty badass.
Also yes, it's nice to see decidedly not nice pokémon. Not necessarialy evil and malicious, but I'd think it's safe to say the nicest one of these guys would be is like Batman. It's a pokémon that demands respect.
Personally... well, I think it suffers a similar problem as Tyranitar and most Johto pokémon. If I had found a Houndour earlier in Crystal, I would have definitely used it and evolved it, specially since I lacked a fire type. (On the other hand, maybe it's for the best I did not, since I went on to use Umbreon)
Infernape is pretty boss. I already mentioned it earlier on, but it is perfect to give a good first impression on Grass types. (And you are right pointing out how the flower displays Pokémon evolution perfectly)
Amusingly enough, my favorite stage of it happens to be Monferno. I think it's the best balanced in design, not looking as rounded as Chimchar but still with aspiration to become the GIANT PLANT DINOSAUR OF DESTRUCTION Infernape is.
Not like I don't like the other two, really, the entire line is pretty awesome.
I haven't trained nowhere as many Infernape as you, though, but I can say it definitely was one of the best Pokémon whenever I used it.
It must be really great to have one such absolute favorite pokémon, that you can associate with your childhood. I tend to shift between favorites pretty often...
Anyways, these blogs have been a really enjoyable read. Will you make any other blog series in between now and XY?
I might try to make something similar myself, but I am terrible at organizing favorites.
Lugia isn't high enough.
@Snubbull Lover 777 Yes, I think Blastoise should have retroactively been given a Steel typing in Generation II. But, oh well, what can you do about it?
Bulbasaur and Chikorita are awesome. Totodile and the Squirtle family are adorable.
Thank you so much for your nice comments. ^_^
@Ranger Jack Walker
It sucks that you don't like Chikorita :( But oh well, to each their own. I can completely understand where you're coming from. Compared to Bulbasaur, she does come off as a bit inferior. Even I have to admit that. I still love her though. But yeah, I can understand why you'd dislike it.
I don't actually think Treecko starts out all that weak. I think it's a pretty solid Starter Pokemon even in its base form. The issue I have with Treecko is that it looks too fragile to be able to protect a ten year old from the dangers of the Pokemon world. But as we know, appearances can be deceiving. So while I'm not a big fan of Treecko's design, I really do like Treecko as a Pokemon. And yes, once it learns Leaf Blade, it will start wrecking things.
Originally Posted by Grass Type Trainer @venusboi79
Bulbasaur, Chikorita, and Grass type fan? How come we haven't talked before?
About making your own top 100: Do it!!!! Probably because my visits to the 'garden are sporadic, and I don't comment all that often. But yes, we should chat sometime :)
Since it's the top 10, let me add my own thoughts:
10) Lugia. While it certainly has that badass look going for it, Ho-oh has always appealed to me more despite fact that Silver was my first game.
9) Tyranitar is boss, no doubt about that. It wouldn't be in my top 10 but it certainly up there in the top 25.
8) Ninetails. I never cared for Nintetails much. I don't like or dislike it.
7) Blastoise. Again, I have no strong feelings about Blastoise, one way or the other.`
6) Meganium. Now this one, I actively dislike. Not because it's too feminine or anything because I adore Gardevoir and Milotic but I find it to be a major stepback from Venusaur as far as grass starters go but also a stepback from Bayleef who has much better design. Being stuck in the 'can do everything but can't excel at anything' zone does it no favours either.
5) Scizor is boss. Scyther was one of my favourite from Gen 1 and Scizor only improves on Scyther's badassery.
4) Dragonite. While only an idiot would deny that Dragonite is the best non-uber dragon in competetitve play, I don't like it too much. I like Salamence more. While it is easy to say that I like it more because it looks more badass, Salamence's whole evolutionary line is made of win. A combination of bug-like metamorphsis (also why i love flygon) and ever-present human desire to fly freely and badass european style dragons is too awesome.
3) Milotic. No thoughts here. Milotic is amazing and always will be.
2) I'm pretty indifferent to Houndoom. Never cared much for it though.
1) Venusaur. I agree with everything you said except i like Sceptile more. Sure it starts out really weak but you get to lvl 29 in RSE and then it's Leaf Blade, all day everyday.
Charizard has a Girlfriend
I loved all the Johto Starters and I have to say even though I picked Totodile (my favorite water starter first stage) through my first playthrough of Pokémon Gold I wound up picking Chikorita for the second playthrough. I really have the anime to thank for that I always had an affinity towards Chikorita and how cute yet feisty she was always looking for Ash's attention and because of that every Chikorita I get must be female I just always imagine Ash's Chikorita's voice when I see one (I know bad habit).
On to Blastoise I love love love the Squirtle family and my favorite of all Wartortle OMG super freaking adorable just look at those ear's and that bushy tail that I want to brush non-stop. It's weird when you think about it Wartortle was like at a stage of temporary puberty then when it evolved it lost it's fluffy ears and tail when it evolved into Blastoise. Also answer this please but shouldn't have Blastoise gained the Steel Typing in Generation 2 the same way Magnemite and Magneton did just look what it has steel cannons on its back I think it would have been really cool.
The next one we have something in common we love the Bulbasaur Family by far the best Grass Starters (this is just based on my childhood not anything with competitive battling) in my eyes and nothing will change that. You pretty much said everything and more that I would say.
With all that being said I loved your list and how much work you put into it I honestly had a feeling Venusaur was going to be your #1 Favorite and should have mentioned it earlier on your list ^_^
@Infinity Mk-II Super liked for the awesome battle and the epic take down of a Dragonite with a Chikorita.
Not only did I pick Chikorita, nor trained it unevolved... My very first Chikorita in Crystal took down Lance's Dragonite in one of the most awesome Pokémon battles I ever had. That little battle that made me appreciate Oddish? Psh, that's got nothing to how much I love this particular Chikorita. Not to mention it was already a pokémon I loved anyways.
Basically my second-to-last pokémon fainted while Dragonite was at low HP. Chikorita survived an Hyper Beam because of Reflect with literally 1 HP, and used the recharge turn to fire off the Solarbeam she just gained during that same battle. It was a critical hit.
It was amazing. Unfortunately, I was too struck in awe that I forgot to cancel evolution, so my victory soured a bit.
But still, after that I seriously started considering Chikorita my favorite pokémon for a while.
I'll comment on the rest later, but Chikorita.
Bulbasaur, Chikorita, and Grass type fan? How come we haven't talked before?
About making your own top 100: Do it!!!!
Being a Grass fan myself, it's no real surprise that so many of your faves are mine as well. Randomly catching an episode of Pokemon featuring the little bulb-backed toad made me realize that this "Pokemon" thing I'd been seeing around was not a Tamagotchi knockoff, but a Gameboy game. I promptly went out and bought it; I was very upset that Bulbasaur wasn't featured on a game cover. And I'm also a Chikorita fan. He (mine was a boy) solidified my tradition of always choosing the Grass type at the beginning.
I've really enjoyed reading your top 100; I feel somewhat motivated to create my own now.
@UnovaCastaway Yay! More Chikorita love. God knows she needs it.
Ninetales and Milotic are so elegant
Houndoom is the number 2 badass :D Yeah!
Chikorita was my first starter, Silver was my first game, and I'm pretty sure that Lugia was my first legendary!
Originally Posted by Grass Type Trainer @Incoming Mortar Oh my God, you like Chikorita too? I thought I was the only one. In Soviet Russia, everyone chose Chikorita!
squirtle squad fan representiiiiiin!
Tyranitar love too!
@Incoming Mortar Oh my God, you like Chikorita too? I thought I was the only one.
Wait, another person who actually chose Chikorita? YAAAAAAY