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  1. SnorlaxMonster's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Evil Figment
    The exact phrasing is wrong, but it's wrong about a trivial point that's irrelevant to what the line *is actually trying to express*.

    It's simply not an attempt to give an accurate plot summary to people who have played the game. It's an attempt to capture what the game is about for people who haven't. Prof Oak sending you out to catch pokémon is very much what the game is about (pokédex quest). Yes, teaching would be more technically accurate for Yellow, but the sentence as a whole still convey the general feeling of what RB is about.
    Nitpicking this kind of detail is a bad case of missing the forest (what the sentence is trying to convey, which is true) for the tree (the specific wording of the statement), and it detracts from the rest of your post.[/quote]

    What you're reading into it is a vague "this is kinda what it's saying" rather than what it actually says; you're ignoring the meaning of the sentence and saying that the feeling it evokes in the context of the whole article is enough to justify it being incorrect. What the sentence actually says is the problem, and in this case what it says is untrue. It is not just that the wording is a little off, the entire sentence is describing something that doesn't happen in the game, which makes it a significant error; this is clearly just a case of someone misattributing the beginning of Yellow to Red/Blue. Had what you're suggesting been the intention, it would have said "teaches you about Pokémon" not "teaches you how to capture Pokémon"; it still provides the exact same abstract overview of the general nature of the game without making stuff up.

    Edited to add, re point #3: one or two points to consider. I'm told by other people - don't know how accurate it is - that ALL games must have a PEGI rating these days in Britain. In which case Nintendo likely went and back-obtained one at some point, or transitioned an older rating to an equivalent PEGI one.
    I considered that, but in that case PEGI should still list it anyway, which they do not. Since by the time PEGI was established, they were not selling Red/Blue, I doubt they would have bothered to go and obtain a classification for it. Note that they do this for all games released before PEGI was established (although I didn't mention them here because I was specifically criticizing this page).

    Moreover, speaking as someone who was gaming in the nineties...release dates were pretty fluid back then, before the internet really took off. Not May/June/October/November fluid, but certainly fluid enough to explain the 3-days time frame issue in North America.
    Yeah, I get that at the time a release date didn't mean it necessarily came out at midnight that time all over the country, instead potentially varying over the period of up to week based on when stores got their copy. However, Nintendo had a specific date they recorded as the release date, and at some point they changed their official date.
  2. Evil Figment's Avatar
    The exact phrasing is wrong, but it's wrong about a trivial point that's irrelevant to what the line *is actually trying to express*.

    It's simply not an attempt to give an accurate plot summary to people who have played the game. It's an attempt to capture what the game is about for people who haven't. Prof Oak sending you out to catch pokémon is very much what the game is about (pokédex quest). Yes, teaching would be more technically accurate for Yellow, but the sentence as a whole still convey the general feeling of what RB is about.

    Nitpicking this kind of detail is a bad case of missing the forest (what the sentence is trying to convey, which is true) for the tree (the specific wording of the statement), and it detracts from the rest of your post.

    Edited to add, re point #3: one or two points to consider. I'm told by other people - don't know how accurate it is - that ALL games must have a PEGI rating these days in Britain. In which case Nintendo likely went and back-obtained one at some point, or transitioned an older rating to an equivalent PEGI one.

    Moreover, speaking as someone who was gaming in the nineties...release dates were pretty fluid back then, before the internet really took off. Not May/June/October/November fluid, but certainly fluid enough to explain the 3-days time frame issue in North America.
    Updated 28th May 2014 at 01:11 PM by Evil Figment
  3. SnorlaxMonster's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Evil Figment
    While the Mew/Mewtwo mistake is pretty lulzy, and the PEGI classification deserves questioned, the whole second part is...seriously, man?

    The first half is frankly nitpicky ("a dangerous brush" doesn't actually require getting into the freaking battle screen, and the vast majority certainly were about to step into that tall grass where they'd have been attacked). The second half, while true, also kind of miss the point entirely. The important thing with a short blurb like that isn't technical accuracy, it's capturing the essence of the game. Prof Oak's role (a teacher/mentor-ish figure who send you out) and catching pokémon are part of the essence of the game. The imbecile old man in Viridian is so far from relevant it's not even funny.
    I think Section 2 is probably is the most nitpicking and the least critical, so I can understand what you mean. "A dangerous brush" could, in a very broad interpretation, describe the near-encounter the player has. It is still a huge stretch though, making the text at best very misleading.

    However, at no point does he teach you to catch Pokemon, so it is simply untrue. It doesn't not say Oak "teaches you about Pokemon", it specifically says he "teaches you to catch Pokemon"; the former is what you are trying to justify. I was not saying that the old man in Viridian City should have been mentioned, but that saying that Oak teaches you to do so in Red/Blue is simply false.

    In fact, as several people have pointed out to me, what that line is actually describing is Pokemon Yellow. In that game, you do encounter a Pokemon and Oak does show you how to catch it.
  4. Evil Figment's Avatar
    While the Mew/Mewtwo mistake is pretty lulzy, and the PEGI classification deserves questioned, the whole second part is...seriously, man?

    The first half is frankly nitpicky ("a dangerous brush" doesn't actually require getting into the freaking battle screen, and the vast majority certainly were about to step into that tall grass where they'd have been attacked). The second half, while true, also kind of miss the point entirely. The important thing with a short blurb like that isn't technical accuracy, it's capturing the essence of the game. Prof Oak's role (a teacher/mentor-ish figure who send you out) and catching pokémon are part of the essence of the game. The imbecile old man in Viridian is so far from relevant it's not even funny.
  5. Mr.E's Avatar
    Also wouldn't Red and "Green" be the games that started it all? I get if they meant for the U.S. but for accuracy it would be Green, not Blue.
  6. Phoenixphlare's Avatar
    DAAAAAAAAMN. Also players 1 well for the main game but trading is kinda a big deal.
  7. SharKing's Avatar
    When the official Pokémon site fails at Pokémon, you know you have a problem. XD
  8. Glitchipedia's Avatar
    "After a dangerous brush with wild Pokémon, Professor Oak teaches you how to capture Pokémon, and then sends you on your way as a fledgling Trainer."
    This is actually true for Yellow, to an extent, but not Red and Blue. It's easy enough to get them confused if one is not overly familiar with Generation I.
  9. Kyain's Avatar
    Wow, this is pretty ridiculous. Mistakes on Pokémon.com isn't very new to me though, I'm used to them, from spelling errors to content errors like you posted.
  10. Karamazov's Avatar
    Pokemon X used to be my favorite webcomic. Too bad it's dead.
  11. Robo-Floatzel's Avatar
    And when the third game comes out, "Pokemon Z version", expect a swarm of Dragon Ball Z jokes to appear on these forums XD
  12. SnorlaxMonster's Avatar
    The title is not new. The game is, but that's not the point.

    Really, the title is that way to make people read it. And clearly it worked. :P
  13. TheMissingno.'s Avatar
    Yeah, they never released a game called Pokemon X or Y before. Therefore it's new.
  14. safrizal's Avatar
    Do you still have that blissey serial ??
    Can I get it
    where i can get you
  15. Shiny Celebi's Avatar
    Can I have it?
  16. SnorlaxMonster's Avatar
    Yeah, I don't visit yours anymore either yourlilemogirl. The lack of motivation is contagious. If your friends stop playing, you get bored of it and stop playing too. The Dream World was best when it was fresh because everyone played. Nobody plays anymore, so it would be really difficult to start playing now.
  17. yourlilemogirl's Avatar
    I agree. I slowly shifted from playing everyday to once or twice a week to about once a month :/

    Though my lack of motivation also stems from the lack of activity my dream pals have. I think I never bother going to your house cuz there's nothing for me to do there :o
  18. Zeb's Avatar
    I went on it once when it was first opened to the rest of the world and I haven't been on it since. I found it incredibly boring after just one go on it. That seems unfair of me to not give it a chance, but I don't care. I don't like it. I still managed to get all the DW Females released so far by using the Trade Center and the GTS, so for me, there was no reason to go back to the Dream World as that's all I was interested in it for, and so there likely never will be a reason for me to return to it until some major changes are implemented.
  19. Oswin's Avatar
    It doesn't even work on my PC :/
  20. Hitomi's Avatar
    Likewise, more minigames would be nice. Pokémon.com has a large number of minigames, and those could be ported to the Dream World without too much difficulty. Then I wouldn't be playing the same games over and over and over... What would also be nice is high scores for the minigames. Whether they would be personal, Dream Pal only, Game Pal only, or universal, I wouldn't really care just as long as there were high scores.
    I could not possibly agree more. I got really bored with the few games they offer really quick; I hate the ice cream scooping and search games, and though I like the Wailord game, I would love it more if I had a high score to try and beat. More minigames and high scores would be a tremendous addition to the site.