Vick set to plead guilty to dogfighting charge

[Platina Berlitz]

It's been said that Falcons QB Micheal Vick is set to plead guilty to the dogfighting charges. He has no one on his side since everyone else already either pleaded guilty or accepted plea bargins. But, will Vick ever play football again even if he's not convicted and accepts the plea bargain ?

[The Big Al]

No, I think this will make him a marked man and no team will want have his name next to theirs. Even if he's not suspended I don't think he'll again.

[GrnMarvl13]

Plus, he's a member of Al-Qaeda. (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,293268,00.html) You can't recover from that.

[Shuko]

Plus, he's a member of Al-Qaeda. (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,293268,00.html) You can't recover from that.

Jonathan Lee Riches filed the handwritten complaint over "theft and abuse of my animals" on July 23 in the U.S. District Court in Richmond, Va.

Riches alleges that Vick stole two white mixed pit bull dogs from his home in Holiday, Fla., and used them for dogfighting operations in Richmond, Va. The complaint goes on to allege that Vick sold the dogs on eBay and “used the proceeds to purchase missiles from the Iran government.”

The complaint also alleges that Vick would need those missiles because he pledged allegiance to Al Qaeda in February of this year.

“Michael Vick has to stop physically hurting my feelings and dashing my hopes,” Riches writes in the complaint.

Riches wants $63 billion dollars “backed by gold and silver “ delivered to the front gates to the Williamsburg Federal Correctional facility in South Carolina. Riches is an inmate at the facility serving out a wire fraud conviction.Lol at the part in bold.

[Girafarig_Magcargo]

Lol at the part in bold.

Okay, maybe the accusations against Vick now have gone a little over-the-top.

I don't want to judge Vick before he actually faces trial or makes a plea bargain, but the evidence is stacked heavily against him. No matter what happens, I doubt he'll play again.

[Platina Berlitz]

Well, Roger Goodel might need to make his decision until Vick kicks the bucket and either pleads guilty or accepts the plea bargain. It's only a matter of time.

And on another note, this dogfighting has been go on since Vick's rookie year ! (2001) 6 YEARS ! How could it last SO long and no ever realzied until June of this year ?

[Barb]

Michael Vick needs to be put down.

[Platina Berlitz]

He's going to back himself in a corner and there'll be no way out...

[ImJessieTR]

I voted yes for him playing again because it seems like you get kicked out of sports for nothing short of genocide and procuring an alien invasion.

But I don't watch nor do I pay athletes with ticket money, so I don't care what they do.

[Ralli]

I voted yes for him playing again because it seems like you get kicked out of sports for nothing short of genocide and procuring an alien invasion.

But I don't watch nor do I pay athletes with ticket money, so I don't care what they do.


You're completely right.

In fact, I'm surprised as many people admit he's guilty as there is. Whenever someone cares about animal cruelty, they immediately condemn someone who isn't a big name, but hesitate or ignore those who are famous who committed the same, or worse, acts.

The guy's career will hardly take a blow at all.

I hate reality.

[The Big Al]

Dogfighting has a much greater stigma. He'll bring the wrong kind of bad press to any team he plays for.

[Platina Berlitz]

He's been doing this since his rookie year (2001), how could it last SO long and no one noticed it ?

[The Big Al]

They looked the other way. As long as it wasn't in the papers it was okay. But now that it's out it can't be denied.

[the gadfly]

He'll serve a suspension to save the NFL's face. When he comes back, if he plays well, all will be forgiven by the fans. After all, players accused of assaulting people, rape, and being accomplices in murder have been welcomed back with open arms by the fans.

So sad.

[Platina Berlitz]

I'm not sure, I mean, dogfighting's a criminal offense !

[GrnMarvl13]

I'm not sure, I mean, dogfighting's a criminal offense !

And rape isn't?

[Platina Berlitz]

But he didn't commit rape, like those Duke Lacross players "did" and actually ended up not doing anything

[GrnMarvl13]

But there have been OTHER sports stars who have. And do. And always will. When it happens, it just gets swept under the rug. Remember Kobe Bryant a few years ago? Remember the big scandal at Colorado University (or was it Colorado State?)?

[Platina Berlitz]

But, Vick's been doing this for 6 YEARS ! That's why the US Court System is hounding him down really, really hard, unlike they did for all those other incidents

[Girafarig_Magcargo]

But there have been OTHER sports stars who have. And do. And always will. When it happens, it just gets swept under the rug. Remember Kobe Bryant a few years ago? Remember the big scandal at Colorado University (or was it Colorado State?)?

I think the girl finally confessed that she made up the rape charge.

As for the incident at Colorado, the rape charge was in the middle of revelations of a vast ring of whores, booze, and other recruiting corruption, so the outcome ( I don't even remember who got convicted) was lost in that.

[Ralli]

I don't follow sports at all. "Grown men hitting little balls with sticks while the rest of the world pays to clap" is basically my view on sports in general- not literally, obviously, but you know. So I don't know much about previous charges against players unless it's turned into a long-running "gag" almost, i.e. the steroids whatnot. THIS came to my attention because...I'm subscribed to the ASPCA, HSUS, and WSPA sites. XD It'd end up getting to me in some ways. I had NO clue who this guy was initially.

So my outrage to this is namely because it hit a little closer to home (huge animal lover, particularly close to dogs) and that I didn't hear it just mentioned somewhere. I do NOT think that any other crimes should be swept under the rug or ignored. A crime is a crime, if you need to get down to it, and NO ONE. No one should be above the law. Of course, those with the money and ties and obsessive-enough of a fanbase can get away with it, sadly. But anyway, I don't think any crime involving the torment or murder of other living creatures- rape, murder, cruelty, etc- should be ignored because one isn't the other. I'd 'defend' dog-fighting to be worse than a rape case ONLY because, if he's done it for 6 years or so, that's a LOT of dogs who had to suffer (what, you think many last long?).

Meh, I wish he'd get what he would have coming. I wish everyone would. Just there's no hope for the justice system.

[GrnMarvl13]

As for the incident at Colorado, the rape charge was in the middle of revelations of a vast ring of whores, booze, and other recruiting corruption, so the outcome ( I don't even remember who got convicted) was lost in that.

I was really just referring to the general level of debauchery that was obviously happening there. And to think it was an isolated incident, that it happened at that ONE college, would be a little naive for anyone to think (not saying you do or don't).

As for Kobe Bryant, real or not, it ONLY got the attention it did because of how huge a name he was at the time. Like when the same allegations were made against Michael Jordan.

[Girafarig_Magcargo]

I was really just referring to the general level of debauchery that was obviously happening there. And to think it was an isolated incident, that it happened at that ONE college, would be a little naive for anyone to think (not saying you do or don't).

As for Kobe Bryant, real or not, it ONLY got the attention it did because of how huge a name he was at the time. Like when the same allegations were made against Michael Jordan.

I don't know how many other colleges use prostitutes to attract recruits, but I do know that many college athletes are able to get luxuries far beyond their own means or the allowed amount they can get from boosters.

[GrnMarvl13]

I don't know how many other colleges use prostitutes to attract recruits, but I do know that many college athletes are able to get luxuries far beyond their own means or the allowed amount they can get from boosters.

And that's another problem with them (though, certainly, not every college does it, and not every athlete who is given the opportunity for such a thing partakes in it), though it's unrelated to the bigger issue here.

There are TONS of athletes who do immoral and/or illegal things, and largely they're ignored for the SAME reason celebrities are ignored for doing similar things (though, 'thanks" to the tabloids, that's becoming a harder thing to get away with). And, frankly, I have no clue why. Many theories, though.

[Platina Berlitz]

And boosters ? What about Reggie Rush, star RB for the Saints ? He could've gotten his Heisman Trophy taken away ! (But, it wasn't)

And now Arthur Blank, the owner of the Falcons has said "Vick will accept the plea deal sometime tonight"

So, he'll face a year in prison, and I don't think he'll ever play football again

[The Big Al]

What might have sunk him is that he lied to the NFL Commissioner. I doubt the Commissioner will put up with that shit. Especially since it would set a danger precedent.

[The Big Al]

Vick's been suspended indefinately. The commissioner said he'll review that suspensoin after the legal proceedings are complete. However, Nike has terminated it's contract and the Falcons are free to reclaim sining bonuses from Vick.

I think Vick's career is over.

[Mc sweeney]

Vick's punishment is too harsh for what he did. This is basically a "victimless crime". Yes, some dogs suffered brutally, but no matter what animal lovers say, animals aren't on the same level as humans.

Consider that millions of animals everywhere are forced to live in tiny cages for their whole life, then slaughtered for food. Cockfighting is exactly as bad as dog fighting, yet if Vick were found guilty of that, I guarantee that it would have been MUCH less of a deal. And why? Only because people keep dogs as pets, and therefore have more affection for them. But the bottom line is, in cockfighting and dogfighting, two living things suffer equally.

Yes he should be punished, but he doesn't deserve to be kicked out of the NFL for life. At MOST it should be one year. Although it's not only the dog killing thing, but the gambling thing that he's in trouble for.

[The Big Al]

At least they're given a quick and painless death and their treatment is regulated by law. Dogfighting (as well as cockfighting) don't. And he lied to the commissioner of the NFL, his boss, about this. The commissioner was fully within his right to suspend them. And I say more power to him if he bans Vick from ever playing football again.